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05-06-2017, 12:43 PM | #1 | |||
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05-06-2017, 02:36 PM | #3 | ||
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Imported goods have been this way since the Rum Corps... Multi-century rip off
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05-06-2017, 03:15 PM | #4 | ||
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Wonder how it all plays out with leasing etc, im no accountant but Id wager a high portion of all these cars are being paid pre tax? Spins my head thinking about it all but high wage earners are generally looking at ways of lowering taxable income so a large pre tax car repayment isnt so bad?
Just makes life annoying for those in the middle.
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05-06-2017, 03:22 PM | #5 | ||
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Taxes are rarely abolished, and when they are it's usually because they're being replaced with a new tax.
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06-06-2017, 02:14 AM | #6 | ||
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silly article . why would they abolish a tax on imported cars? especially when the top down drive them ,(car C01 rego - our Prime minister's appointed BMW) at the taxpayers expense. we let them bugger us a long time ago.
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06-06-2017, 09:30 AM | #7 | ||
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For the record, here is the breakdown on fees i paid last year when i bought my new Landcruiser........Its crazy how much the Gov get.....
Final price $114,000 Vehicle $87,122 Rego $703 CTP $547 Plates $43 Stamp Duty $4510 GST $8891 Lux Car Tax $10,387 Dealer delivery $1795 !!! (for a car wash) So thats $23,788 in taxes.(Stamp Duty, GST, and Lux Car Tax) (not including rego CTP, plates). Granted i was able to grab back some of the GST but people buying privately don't have that option. Crazy.....
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06-06-2017, 10:50 AM | #8 | |||
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They have to charge such huge amounts because they operate so inefficiently. |
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06-06-2017, 12:51 PM | #9 | ||
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If the government reduced the LCT, would that mean that second hand prices of the luxury brands would drastically fall as well? All of a sudden new cars would seem much cheaper.
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06-06-2017, 03:07 PM | #10 | ||
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Well I understood the LCT was a form of protectialism for our own top end cars eg Fairlane/LTD and Caprice Calais etc.Now they are no longer being produced there is no need to hit buyers with any excess tax.So the only tax should be the regulation 10% GST
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06-06-2017, 03:46 PM | #11 | ||
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Good point but problem is no government likes to remove taxes regardless of circumstances.
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06-06-2017, 04:08 PM | #12 | |||
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You can save a little bit if you do enough kms but its really about using somebody elses money (the leasing company) to fund the car becaause you have better places to use your own money eg shares, business, property etc etc |
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06-06-2017, 05:36 PM | #13 | ||
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We pay alot of tax....well I'll be...
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06-06-2017, 08:28 PM | #14 | ||
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Reading that article about abolishing rego and having a pay as you go
took me back to 1974 when the PM Gough Whitlam suggested puting two cents a gallon (about 1/2 a cent a litre) onto petrol and abolish rego well he was shot down in flames mostly by the farmers and the Libs |
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06-06-2017, 09:16 PM | #15 | |||
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11-07-2017, 09:42 PM | #16 | ||
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Drop this tax they will raise the money elsewhere so you decide happy to happy luxury car tax or increase tax on all cars same same except I ain't paying luxury car tax at the moment
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12-07-2017, 12:00 AM | #17 | |||
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I thought the Parallel Import Scheme was going ahead (although I haven't followed it lately). Checking out Motors.co.uk prices, and compare prices on Porsche. You could import a 911, for what it would cost to buy a 718 here (Imported by Porsche Australia). Buying will pretty much be restricted to UK and Japan cars(RHD). And likely to be difficult to Finance. So access to cash in the bank, up front. Another factor to our high prices is our Market Share. Using Porshe 911, again. The USA buys a large amount per year, compared to Australia. So they get a bulk rate/discount. I think some of these articles are just Smoke Screens by the Luxury Importers, blaming government for high RRP. They don't want the Parrallel Import Scheme. The top end of town still has plenty to spend on Luxury cars. And the Importers/Dealerships profit from Sales and In-house Finance. LCT= First World Problem |
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12-07-2017, 09:04 AM | #18 | |||
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Think of leasing as a (complicated) alternative to taking out a personal loan, or buying something on credit card. The pre-tax/post-tax thing was a benefit 20 years ago but now it isn't worth the effort and not competitive with other forms of vehicle financing. |
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12-07-2017, 09:24 AM | #19 | |||
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As far as I can see leasing is still a viable option for people with the correct financial conditions. It's just not as attractive as it once was when you could get it down to 11 and 7%. I would say the real killer is the amount of low interest finance that's going around the car industry at the moment. I think novated lease companies still run quite high interest rates on the loan component.
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12-07-2017, 09:47 AM | #20 | |||
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12-07-2017, 09:55 AM | #21 | ||
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Please read
https://www.strattonfinance.com.au/n...st-effect.aspx http://www.sgfleet.com/au/salary-pac...oyee-benefits/ https://racvsalarysolutions.com.au/n...novated-lease/
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12-07-2017, 10:25 AM | #22 | ||
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Your point is???
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Sorry do I need to extract the point for you from those? Each link directly contradicts your assertion that you dont get GST savings in a novated lease.
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12-07-2017, 11:25 AM | #24 | ||
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You are correct from a business aspect BUT as a privateer I cannot get a lease vehicle GST free.
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12-07-2017, 11:40 AM | #25 | ||
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How is that relevant, we were talking about novated leasing...
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12-07-2017, 12:04 PM | #27 | ||
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Go to countries like Malaysia where they pay 300% import tariffs, and you'll see we're not too bad in comparison. Imagine having to pay $250k for a Nissan 370Z.
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12-07-2017, 12:46 PM | #28 | ||
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Or move to America and pay $AUD68k for a BMW M2 or $AUD98k for a C63 S Coupe
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12-07-2017, 12:49 PM | #29 | ||
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12-07-2017, 01:20 PM | #30 | ||
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Seems there is no reason to abolish this tax.
Not like the new car market is struggling and sales of luxury cars are at market highs.
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