Need a new PC monitor

loxxr6 · 07-06-2005, 01:47 PM

I'm currently looking at getting a replacement monitor as my shitty 15" is well past its used by date and also starting to die.

I'm after at least a 17" or bigger monitor, with around $300-$500 as the budget. I'm not fussed whether its lcd or cathode ?(the other one). It will once my graphics card gets updated, be used for gaming as well.

I was recommended this one but I'm still looking around.

Has anyone got any suggestions ?

EA2BA · 07-06-2005, 01:49 PM

BENQ are pretty good, I would just have some patience and watch office works, they often have good LCD's at cheap prices on special.

svo347 · 07-06-2005, 01:55 PM

LCD's rock man very good picture quality,clarity etc.
I have an LG 19"

Racecraft · 07-06-2005, 02:04 PM

My old man just upgraded to one of these puppies, I want one now simply to save space on my desk.. THe quality is suberb it seems so crisp compared to his old CRT 17" that has now become the dual display monitor

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...onBEt904_black

19" LCD for under $500 is good enough for me

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 02:20 PM

Philips 109B5 19" CRT - good monitor use one every day.

17" CMV LCD MM CT720D DVI Wht/lSilv8MsM
19" CMV LCD 922D DVI Sil/Blk 21Ms

Pretty good value, should be well under budget as well.

I can get these - $330, $340, $440 and the CMVs are better than the Benqs (better response)

Dez · 07-06-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

My old man just upgraded to one of these puppies, I want one now simply to save space on my desk.. THe quality is suberb it seems so crisp compared to his old CRT 17" that has now become the dual display monitor

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...onBEt904_black

19" LCD for under $500 is good enough for me

that 1 has 25ms response time...if he is thinkin of gaming with it, thats too slow imo. 16 should be the absolute minimum for gaming....

Fairmont 99, where does the CMV have better response time? 1 of them has 8ms, the same as the BenQ he mentioned, and the other is 21ms....?

Lox, i've got a BENQ 17" with 12ms and i play a heap of games with hardcore graphics. Its great quality and i've had absolutely no problems with it....the 1 you mentioned has an even better response time, so it looks like a great choice to me

Paris Hilton · 07-06-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez

that 1 has 25ms response time...if he is thinkin of gaming with it, thats too slow imo. 16 should be the absolute minimum for gaming....

Fairmont 99, where does the CMV have better response time? 1 of them has 8ms, the same as the BenQ he mentioned, and the other is 21ms....?

Yeah exactly. If you want to go gaming i'd suggest a CRT, not only because of the response times, but because of the colour vibrance and depth as well. Not to mention the fact that they are usually cheaper too

M14A-Mclaren · 07-06-2005, 02:52 PM

Go AOC, I got a 9KLR 19" flat CRT monitor nice.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 02:59 PM

Yes that is horrible for games, I would only go a CRT for games.

The Benq 19" has a # Response time 25 ms... Any of you actually follow the link? obviously not. A 17" that doesn't have a response of 8ms or less shouldn't even be looked at.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:02 PM

oh and $330 for a 109B6 not 5 my mistake

Dez · 07-06-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

Yes that is horrible for games, I would only go a CRT for games.

The Benq 19" has a # Response time 25 ms... Any of you actually follow the link? obviously not. A 17" that doesn't have a response of 8ms or less shouldn't even be looked at.

how did i not follow the link in racecraft's post? i quoted the 25ms....

if you mean following a link in your post, there wasn't one.

and my LCD has 12ms, and i use it for gaming all the time. have 0 issues with it.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dez

Fairmont 99, where does the CMV have better response time? 1 of them has 8ms, the same as the BenQ he mentioned, and the other is 21ms....?

Only one BenQ was linked to..
And the CMVs are cheaper for same size as well as faster response.

Dez · 07-06-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

Only one BenQ was linked to..
And the CMVs are cheaper for same size as well as faster response.

thats what i asked you...where does either of the CMV that you listed have a better response time than 8ms. the lowest response time on a CMV that you listed was 8ms

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:39 PM

oh ffs, only ONE (1) Benq was linked to, you implied that it was 8ms, it is not and has a higher response than the CMV. CMV 17" 8ms, 19" 21ms nowhere did I say either was faster than that.

Let me rephrase then - CMV are cheaper and OR faster response than Benq

Happy? All I did was make a better suggestion, I didn't say the LCD was better for games either. My first damn suggestion is a 19" CRT that is cheaper than both and weighs less than most 17" CRTs.

BOTH CMV and Benq make cheap and nasty POS, any LCD in that price range generally is so it's best to thouroughly test them out yourself before purchase to see if they are up to scratch for your needs. Your Benq obviosly is, GOOD FOR YOU!

BlueRaven · 07-06-2005, 03:39 PM

Something I dont think anyone else has mentioned yet is that CRTs are not only cheaper, but are just as clear in any resolution, whereas LCD screens are made for a specific resolution and look really blurry in anything under it.

Again, if you want to play games and your computer can't handle 1280 x 1024 (which is standard on 17inch LCD monitors), get the CRT.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueRaven

Something I dont think anyone else has mentioned yet is that CRTs are not only cheaper, but are just as clear in any resolution, whereas LCD screens are made for a specific resolution and look really blurry in anything under it.

Again, if you want to play games and your computer can't handle 1280 x 1024 (which is standard on 17inch LCD monitors), get the CRT.

Totally agree, excellent point and I stand by my CRT suggestion.

Dez · 07-06-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairmont99

oh ffs, only ONE (1) Benq was linked to, you implied that it was 8ms, it is not and has a higher response than the CMV. CMV 17" 8ms, 19" 21ms nowhere did I say either was faster than that.

Let me rephrase then - CMV are cheaper and OR faster response than Benq

Happy? All I did was make a better suggestion, I didn't say the LCD was better for games either. My first damn suggestion is a 19" CRT that is cheaper than both and weighs less than most 17" CRTs.

BOTH CMV and Benq make cheap and nasty POS, any LCD in that price range generally is so it's best to thouroughly test them out yourself before purchase to see if they are up to scratch for your needs. Your Benq obviosly is, GOOD FOR YOU!

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jonbays · 07-06-2005, 03:49 PM

Mate i have a lovely Benq FP931 it would do very well and you wouldn't know what to do coming from a 15" CRT.

They are getting cheap now too.

For $350 I can get a 15" LCD and Microsoft wireless keyborad and mouse bundle.

dogbreath_48 · 07-06-2005, 03:56 PM

Have a look at second hand screens. I brought a 19" Compaq CRT for $200 - still had that new smell, not a scratch on it.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbays

For $350 I can get a 15" LCD and Microsoft wireless keyborad and mouse bundle.

They give a lot of those wireless bundles away now and if they are the newer ones the batteries last for ages, pretty good. Well not really giving it away with $350 for just a 15" but still good.

DivHunter · 07-06-2005, 03:58 PM

ages being 6 months of everyday use (have a set in the office)

loxxr6 · 07-06-2005, 04:19 PM

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Totally agree, excellent point and I stand by my CRT suggestion.

So any further suggestions on CRT models to look for ?

jonbays · 07-06-2005, 04:30 PM

Forget CRT go LCD nowadays mate easy on the eyes refres rates now almost OK for anything.

Dez · 07-06-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbays

Forget CRT go LCD nowadays mate easy on the eyes refres rates now almost OK for anything.

not to mention just looking better on a desk, looking better in general, taking up less space. etc etc

the picture quality on them is mad i rekin...the first time i fired up my LCD i loved the difference in picture

Steffo · 07-06-2005, 05:44 PM

CRT sucks. LCD all the way. CRT pwns your eyes, LCD doesn't (well, FAR LESS, FAR FAR LESS). Whenever I go to someone's house who has an LCD, and come home to my 17" CRT, I get a headache looking at the CRT. And I run it at 85Hz, a damn good refresh rate. I can't wait until I've got the funds to get myself an LCD and get away from this CRT crap.

As for good monitor grands.. BenQ, LG, Samsung, Phillips, Sony, Hitachi. That's about all I ever consider.

Steffo · 07-06-2005, 05:45 PM

Oh, and the LCD's blurring on lower resolutions is utter nonsense. Maybe it was true in 1995, but not anymore. I know MANY people who have huge LCD's and run them at FAR lower resolutions, and they look perfect.

SileNceR · 07-06-2005, 07:08 PM

Get a philips 107P or 109P CRT if they still make them...
otherwise acer make an 8ms 17" tft,
and benq make a 12ms 19" tft... both of these you should be able to get from most leading edge computer stores as they are part of featured catalogue systems and should be available separately...

With all LCD's do not buy online, buy from somewhere you can actually set the monitor you are going to buy up, and then check it with a light, and dark, background to check for always light and/or dark or always red/green/blue pixels as most companies and also resellers will not allow you to return an LCD unless it meets the manufacturers warranty which can often be no less than 5 dead pixels (or 1 in the center 3rd of the screen).

BlueRaven · 07-06-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Oh, and the LCD's blurring on lower resolutions is utter nonsense. Maybe it was true in 1995, but not anymore. I know MANY people who have huge LCD's and run them at FAR lower resolutions, and they look perfect.

Your officially a misinformed idiot with bad eye sight. New 17inch LCD screens are blury in lower resolutions. Its a fact of life. They are designed for a specific resolution and look terrible on anything else.

Again, it comes down to what he wants.

If he's only gonna use it for desktop applications, windows, browsing, office, whatever... then yeah, go the LCD. I agree on all the points everyone says about saving space, easy on eyes - whatever.

However, if hes gaming or running applications that switch resolutions (and as I implied before, hardcore FPS games need some grunt to run in 1280 x 1024) then get the CRT.

Additonally, if your having issues with CRT monitors, a good monitor will go over 100hz which will not give your eyes a hard time.

Everyones a bloody expert.

Kapn_Kiwi · 07-06-2005, 07:31 PM

I agree with Andy (Blueraven)
I just dropped the res on my LCD down a notch, and it doesn't look too pretty.
So long as your desk has the room to deal with a CRT (Mine doesn't, it's the main reason for an LCD, but it is useful for taking to LANs)
I'd go for one of those.

Dez · 07-06-2005, 07:32 PM

im no expert and don't claim to be. (not implying that you were singling me out either raven

)

the thing with me and fairmont99 is cleared up, he mis read what i wrote...

all i'm offering is my personal experience...and i game with hardcore FPS games on this monitor....

its the BenQ 17" LCD with 12ms btw....I have no drams with it...I run the highest res on it, because i like high res for windows etc....so no drams with blurryness or anything like that.

it has no dead pixels what so ever, and has a 3 year on site warranty on any dead pixels

for reference (if it helps) my video card is a X850XT, but before that i played the same games i do now with a geforce FX5600 265mb, and just ran them on lower detail, and once again had no problems.

the 17" u linked to lox, looks like its the newer version of what i have...so in my opinion it'd be fine for whatever ur gonna use it for....