2 piece tailshalf

XR82GO · 14-01-2009, 09:46 PM

I have a 2 piece tailshaft...is fully reconditioned...how much would it be worth...any ideas guys

waggaclint · 14-01-2009, 11:28 PM

what does it suit sedan/ute/wagon ??

The Monty · 15-01-2009, 02:56 AM

Auto or manual?

Mr Hardware · 15-01-2009, 09:38 AM

a 2 piece tailshaft is as useful as a rear wing. I never go over 180 to make use of it anyway.

RG · 15-01-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

a 2 piece tailshaft is as useful as a rear wing. I never go over 180 to make use of it anyway.

That's nice but what has that got to do with the value of it?

Mr Hardware · 15-01-2009, 09:43 AM

true. i wouldn't say it'd be worth too much. usually it'd cost ya $150 or so for the middle cv-joint to be redone, so say, $200? Maybe more if someone's really keen?

**Stav** · 15-01-2009, 09:52 AM

I was quoted around 800 from memory for a recoed one ..

b2tf · 15-01-2009, 10:06 AM

I believe it is to suit an Auto V8, its basically a Pursuit 250 one but Rob will confirm that.

**Stav** · 15-01-2009, 10:26 AM

Thanks for clearing that up ..I never knew they came standard. cheers.

Mr Hardware · 15-01-2009, 10:42 AM

Yeah, two piece tailshafts came standard with lots of things, just not stocko forte's and fairmonts.

XR82GO · 15-01-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

I believe it is to suit an Auto V8, its basically a Pursuit 250 one but Rob will confirm that.

Yes it is for an Auto and it is for a ute as far as i know...will get a pic up of it soon

b2tf · 15-01-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

Yeah, two piece tailshafts came standard with lots of things, just not stocko forte's and fairmonts.

The only AU that ever got one was the P250 as it was designed to be this way so it could go over 180km/hr. Taken from the FPV website:

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To cover the extreme working conditions and heavy loads that many Falcon utes are subjected to, the standard ute has a long, large diameter tail shaft required for the substantial variations in rear axle ride height and work load. This also provides stand alone rear suspension that is not dependent on the type of cargo body fitted. To cater for these extremes in application, the standard ute has a 180 km/h speed limiter which makes sense given its unrivalled heavy duty work focus.

However, the premium performance and extra recreation focus of the Pursuit 250 allowed Tickford to take a different approach to the driveline. The challenge was to find a tail shaft design that maintained the ruggedness of the standard design while catering for the massive torque loads imposed on the driveline by the powerful new engine and to be able to sustain these loads at higher rotational speeds. Tickford could also reduce the payload and lower the ride height to set up the suspension specifically for this application without having to cover the extremes that a one tonne payload will generate. This approach also ensures that high speed handling is consistent laden or unladen.

After extensive outback testing, the answer was found in a two piece tail shaft with a combination of double cardan and constant velocity joints. Because of Ford's strong owner base in parts of outback Australia that are subject to an open speed limit, high speed stability and durability under sustained high speed cruising when empty or loaded were higher priorities than the ultimate load carrying ability of the standard ute.

The resulting two-piece tail shaft was a first for a leaf spring live rear axle ute and the lack of vibration under the enormous twisting power of 500 Nm of torque was a revelation to all who have driven a Pursuit 250. The ute's extra long wheelbase, the even spread of weight into the rear section generated by the hefty structural members, the constant rear track and the advanced front suspension and steering generated a new benchmark for a performance ute, laden or unladen.

Rest is here:

http://www.fpv.com.au/theheritage/ut...50utility.aspx

The Monty · 15-01-2009, 01:44 PM

So what will it fit?

Mr Hardware · 15-01-2009, 03:59 PM

wow, my bad. i was under the impression that anything with an XR badge or higher had a two-piece to get around the 180k issue. ignore me then, looks like they're rare.

Then why do commodores have two piece tailshafts if they are of no advantage? (no holden bashing pls, serious question).

b2tf · 15-01-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

wow, my bad. i was under the impression that anything with an XR badge or higher had a two-piece to get around the 180k issue. ignore me then, looks like they're rare.

Then why do commodores have two piece tailshafts if they are of no advantage? (no holden bashing pls, serious question).

Just a design thing really, I know which out of a 250 or a Commodore I'd rather be doing over 180 in though.

b2tf · 15-01-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

So what will it fit?

Ute or Wagon

josh_hartman · 15-01-2009, 06:12 PM

i thought the tailshafts are unsafe over 180kmh so why isnt my xr8 speed limited if its a single peice?

The Monty · 15-01-2009, 06:14 PM

Ive heard it lots, but having seen mine on the dyno a few times at over 200, I dunno.

RG · 15-01-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by josh_hartman

i thought the tailshafts are unsafe over 180kmh so why isnt my xr8 speed limited if its a single peice?

Because the XR8 sedan got an alloy shaft.

b2tf · 15-01-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by josh_hartman

i thought the tailshafts are unsafe over 180kmh so why isnt my xr8 speed limited if its a single peice?

Utes are speed limited, sedans arent.

philstoj · 15-01-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Because the XR8 sedan got an alloy shaft.

Utes got the alloy tailshaft aswell, just its about 10 ft longer than the sedan!

XR82GO · 16-01-2009, 03:33 PM

ok guys here is something i found out today

Rang Sinclair Ford and asked for a price on a 2 piece tailshalf.

He asked me if i was sitting down as he couldnt believe the price that was on his computer screen

$5125 plus gst

So you do the math..

Over $5500 for a new one

joolz · 07-02-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XR82GO

ok guys here is something i found out today

Rang Sinclair Ford and asked for a price on a 2 piece tailshalf.

He asked me if i was sitting down as he couldnt believe the price that was on his computer screen

$5125 plus gst

So you do the math..

Over $5500 for a new one

Thats a joke!!! So its for an AU? and has a slip yoke, UJ, front tube(approx 400mm), centre bearing, CVJ, rear tube (approx 1000mm) and double cardin joint (2 UJ's in one joint). If its a reco i would pay no more than $400 for it as its more than likely genuine components werent used. The genuine UJ's are Spicer and CVJ is GKN.