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Old 15-05-2011, 07:32 AM   #1
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Old 15-05-2011, 08:04 AM   #2
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This isnt new - been around since the 1900's...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposed-piston_engine

But still cool...
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Old 15-05-2011, 08:08 AM   #3
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Impressive stuff. And its a 3 year old article. I wonder where there at with it now?
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Old 15-05-2011, 12:43 PM   #4
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Nice and low and flat. Sounds interesting.

But how would you package that between the wheels in a car? Both transversion or longitudinal installations would struggle. I'd be interested in see what out options there are with the dimensions - short stroke large pistions and stuff like that.

Also, I wonder why it had to be two stroke? Strikes me that there'd be no reason why you couldn't have valves on the side and run it as a four stroke. But they seem like smart people, I imagine that would have been considered.


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Old 15-05-2011, 01:14 PM   #5
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kinda like a suburu boxer motor on acid
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Old 15-05-2011, 07:32 PM   #6
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Rotories are more efficient in mass vs power stakes too but we aren't all cruising around in ****els.

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Nice and low and flat. Sounds interesting.

But how would you package that between the wheels in a car? Both transversion or longitudinal installations would struggle. I'd be interested in see what out options there are with the dimensions - short stroke large pistions and stuff like that.

Also, I wonder why it had to be two stroke? Strikes me that there'd be no reason why you couldn't have valves on the side and run it as a four stroke. But they seem like smart people, I imagine that would have been considered.


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It would be the same as mounting a flat motor. If you wanted to run it E-W you could probably develop a transfer to suit.
Its a two stroke diesel, not to be confused with a whipper snipper motor.
They seem to think a 40% efficiency rate, which would be up there with modern DI turbo diesels, of course the weight saving and reduced cooling effort needed would be the main benefits. Interested to see where they went with it.
I would dare say that balancing now would be alot more accurate than in the early 1900s. Curious to see durability aswell.
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Old 15-05-2011, 07:58 PM   #7
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2 stroke opposed piston engines have been around for years..
This Commer knocker uses rockers to operate pistons..
These engines used a super charger to assist induction..
http://wn.com/Commer_Knocker_Engine
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Old 15-05-2011, 08:01 PM   #8
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Commer knockers had 2 cranks. This has 1!
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Old 15-05-2011, 10:56 PM   #9
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Only failure with this design, is the scavenging effect is limited as the ports are fixed. It needs a blower to make it effective (efficient).

It will probably sound like a GM Detroit (aka Scream'n Demon)

Here's a DIY method... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM3m6S0A56U

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Old 16-05-2011, 12:07 AM   #10
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Interesting, ive never heard of such a motor design before. Very interesting.
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Commer knockers had 2 cranks. This has 1!
Single crank with rocker operation...
Still not that much different..

http://www.commer.org.nz/Commer_Conn...2_Strokes.html
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