Allan Moffat Specials

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 11:54 AM

I was trying to find a pic of the XC Allan Moffat Special, and was completely unsucessful.

Along the way I fell over these pics of an E series Moffatmobile:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...tESeries01.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4...tESeries02.jpg

I don't know if this is the ED HO Allan Moffat Special that I've heard about, but know absolutely nothing about. Could somebody fill me in?

My recollection of the XC AMS was that it was basically a ricer - white car, black sills and arches, bonnet, but standard 2 barrel V8 - can't remember if it was a 351 or 302???

What were the mechanical specs of the E Series Moffatmachine?

Des · 16-12-2005, 12:02 PM

I don't know the complete story but a few of these were made. If I remember correctly, they were blown V8's. Can't remember the power figures, but I remember being disappointed when I read them.

bathurst77 · 16-12-2005, 12:11 PM

I think Moffat special E series were called "Phase Ho" perhaps and were by the same melbourne mob as did the Phase 5 XDs (Phase automiotives) which Allan had a hand in.

As for your pic of XC Allan Moffat Special... this is all i could find

Thunder · 16-12-2005, 12:41 PM

Allan Moffat gave his signature for the production of the AM-HO. Based on an EB or ED, wheels and tyres/ body kits/interior/ and engine modes were available. It think it was built by (not 100%) Phase Autos in Melbourne. A supercharger was available for the 6 and the V8. They looked HOT. It was great to have a ford avaiable with a HO badge, unfortunatly it was not factory but built aftermarket.

henry 351 · 16-12-2005, 01:31 PM

Check this link out for what appears to be a rare Moffatt Special coupe buried amongst some Mad Max info
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/Rep...ack/index.html

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

I think Moffat special E series were called "Phase Ho" perhaps and were by the same melbourne mob as did the Phase 5 XDs (Phase automiotives) which Allan had a hand in.

As for your pic of XC Allan Moffat Special... this is all i could find

Thanks, looks like there were more extras on the XC AMS than I thought. Shame it was only a 302. A car with Moffats name attached should have been a 351, ala (some) John Goss Specials.

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder

Allan Moffat gave his signature for the production of the AM-HO. Based on an EB or ED, wheels and tyres/ body kits/interior/ and engine modes were available. It think it was built by (not 100%) Phase Autos in Melbourne. A supercharger was available for the 6 and the V8. They looked HOT. It was great to have a ford avaiable with a HO badge, unfortunatly it was not factory but built aftermarket.

Anybody know how many were made? Any still running?

BJ · 16-12-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Des

If I remember correctly, they were blown V8's.

No they weren't. No Moffat specials were blown. All that can through pre-deliver where carby 302 clevos with 4 speed and borg rear ends.

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by henry 351

Check this link out for what appears to be a rare Moffatt Special coupe buried amongst some Mad Max info
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/Rep...ack/index.html

LOL. The 1970s - the decade that good taste forgot.

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CH7472

No they weren't. No Moffat specials were blown. All that can through pre-deliver where carby 302 clevos with 4 speed and borg rear ends.

Are you referring to the XC or the ED?

Abacus · 16-12-2005, 03:53 PM

Quote from the newspaper article "The red, white and blue cars are offered as a special value pack..."

I thought they were just white and black. Anybody recall what were the red and blue bits?

Rodp · 16-12-2005, 04:33 PM

The E series looks pretty nice, apart from the rear wing.

Des · 16-12-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CH7472

No they weren't. No Moffat specials were blown. All that can through pre-deliver where carby 302 clevos with 4 speed and borg rear ends.

Sorry mate, I should of clarified. I was talking about the ED version. I didn't even know the X series version existed. I'm trying to remember the article I read years ago. Can't remember all the details.

**GasoLane** · 16-12-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

Thanks, looks like there were more extras on the XC AMS than I thought. Shame it was only a 302. A car with Moffats name attached should have been a 351, ala (some) John Goss Specials.

From what I can remember watching him race (yes, I am THAT old

) I think that Moffatt's Boss 302 was quicker than the 351's at the time.

One thing I do remember is that Moffatt's cars always sounded different to all other Falcons on the main straight at Sandown

EFFalcon · 16-12-2005, 05:38 PM

HO also touched a few EB GT's, there was one at a car yard a while ago, blown 8 with the HO plate and all.

Thunder · 16-12-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

HO also touched a few EB GT's, there was one at a car yard a while ago, blown 8 with the HO plate and all.

Thats what we are talking about.

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GRNKPR · 16-12-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CH7472

No they weren't. No Moffat specials were blown. All that can through pre-deliver where carby 302 clevos with 4 speed and borg rear ends.

the ed moffats where blown but only a hand full were made

bathurst77 · 16-12-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

Quote from the newspaper article "The red, white and blue cars are offered as a special value pack..."

I thought they were just white and black. Anybody recall what were the red and blue bits?

I think they mean "red, white OR blue"

they came in red, white or blue with black accents on bonnet, doors, sills etc.
Also had aussie fladg and Alllan Sig just above the 4.9 on the flanks.

Ive seen a few around here n there.

OH and I actually really LOVE Peter Arcadipanes "Concorde" van and "October Car" 2 door. Been lucky enough to see em both in the flesh way back when they were new.

Anyone got any more pix of either of them?

xe351 · 19-12-2005, 10:21 AM

I think there were 6 ed moffat HO's built, blown 250kw i think, went in one once, if was nice

XC moffats i think there were either 52 or 56 made, it wasnt many, its really hard to find info on them too. Whats XC moffat worth anyone know?

4Vman · 19-12-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

Thanks, looks like there were more extras on the XC AMS than I thought. Shame it was only a 302. A car with Moffats name attached should have been a 351, ala (some) John Goss Specials.

John Goss Specials were all 302's as well.

henry 351 · 19-12-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

John Goss Specials were all 302's as well.

That's correct, except for John's....he is currently restoring it and we should se it back on the road soon.

Quasi · 19-12-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xe351

I think there were 6 ed moffat HO's built, blown 250kw i think, went in one once, if was nice.

My father-in-law owns an ED Moffatt signature HO.

I last spoke with him in June, and he was thinking seriously about parting with it. He was looking at asking around $23,000 for it, with (I believe) under 100,000 KMs on the thing.

I'll have to get in touch to see if he still has it.

Quasi · 19-12-2005, 02:34 PM

Okay....just got off the phone withhim and this is what he has:

1994 EDII Moffat signature Falcon
EFI 5.0L Windsor (puts out around 245Kw)
5 Speed Manual Transmission
81,000 Original Kms (had 54,000 when he bought it)
Original wheels and tyres in storage
Cobalt Blue In Colour

I am listing this in 'For sale' section.

Abacus · 19-12-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

John Goss Specials were all 302's as well.

My bad. I was thinking of Cobras and I typed JGS.

Mind you, JGS **should** have had a 351 too...

4Vman · 19-12-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

My bad. I was thinking of Cobras and I typed JGS.

Mind you, JGS **should** have had a 351 too...

If JGS's and Cobra's were 4 barrel 351 only people might take them a bit more seriously i guess.

Abacus · 19-12-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

If JGS's and Cobra's were 4 barrel 351 only people might take them a bit more seriously i guess.

Did Ford ever make a 27A compliant 4bb?

4Vman · 19-12-2005, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

Did Ford ever make a 27A compliant 4bb?

yep, the T code XC 351 motor was ADR 27a.
Prior to ADR 27a there was only the GT T code 4 barrel 351 that was ADR 27 compliant, the K code 351 was 2 barrel for ADR 27.
By the way, all ADR 27a 302's and 351's from XC onward had 4 barrel carbs.

Abacus · 19-12-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

John Goss Specials were all 302's as well.

Found a useful reference site for anybody interested in Goss Specials at:

http://www.johngossspecial.com/ident.htm