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Old 02-06-2007, 07:19 PM   #1
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Car is blowing a faint white smoke and smells a lot like petrol.

Does this mean it's running rich?

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Old 02-06-2007, 08:18 PM   #2
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Black smoke is too rich

Blue smoke is oil being burned

White smoke is water in the combustion chamber
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:07 PM   #3
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id be getting a compression guage or a leak down test guage onto it soon. could be looking at a headgasket here mate.
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sounds like your head gasket is about or starting to go on ya mate. my opinion is just do the head gasket now before it gets worse
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HG gone, put an au one on
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Its also possible it might be blowing faint white smoke because you havent started it in a while if in doubt look for leaks around your head gasket.
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I done a cylinder compression test yesterday, all cylinders were around 200psi.
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like efgiar said hg gone put AU one on
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it is possible to be sucking brake fluid in to the engine throu the boster even thou rare
and this will also cause white smoke
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There should be no brake fluid in the booster to be sucked into the motor, it can not get in there.
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There should be no brake fluid in the booster to be sucked into the motor, it can not get in there.
Not so true but the odds of your master cylinder and brake booster leaking in same spot would have to be million to one
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The head gasket was only replaced 70 000km's ago and the white smoke is almost clear.

I thought it was something that cars did when the engine was cold.

I ran it for 10 minutes, I'll take it for a drive and see if it's still doing it after the drive.

If so I'll replace it asap.

I never done a head gasket and aint paying $800 for a mechanic to do it.

Are they easy to do yaself?

I just don my rocker cover gasket 2hrs ago.
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Not so true but the odds of your master cylinder and brake booster leaking in same spot would have to be million to one
Ok, put up your hands who has this happen to them.

A leaking booster would have the owner complaining about the pedal effort they have to use to stop the car and also how rough or high the motor is revving at idle. and if the master cylinder was leaking at that exact spot (if that could happen) the engine vacuum would suck tha master cylinder dry, so then the owner would be complaining about how the padal goes to the floor.
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Blue is oil, black is to much fuel, white can mean lean, and rich. but if it smells like fuel its running rich. Also... Head gaskets arn't hard to change, you just have to have the right tools.

Secret is to keep it clean and tension the bolts in the right order and in stages so you dont warp the head.
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Blue is oil, black is to much fuel, white can mean lean, and rich. .
So black is too much fuel, white is lean or rich ???????
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Ok, put up your hands who has this happen to them.

A leaking booster would have the owner complaining about the pedal effort they have to use to stop the car and also how rough or high the motor is revving at idle. and if the master cylinder was leaking at that exact spot (if that could happen) the engine vacuum would suck tha master cylinder dry, so then the owner would be complaining about how the padal goes to the floor.
* hand waves high *

my first car an xy wagon
master was leaking down the plundger vacume booster had a leek in the spindle and was getting sucked in to the engine blowing white smoke , too a fair bit to locate after we had done all the useual stuff and not meny had heard of this and when was mentioned every one said it cant so we didnt check and repaired stuff that people thought it could be
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my first car an xy wagon
master was leaking down the plundger vacume booster had a leek in the spindle and was getting sucked in to the engine blowing white smoke , too a fair bit to locate after we had done all the useual stuff and not meny had heard of this and when was mentioned every one said it cant so we didnt check and repaired stuff that people thought it could be
27 years in the trade and first time I have heard of both problems happening at the same time, You learn something new everyday, the rough idle should have given you a bit of a clue which way to head to rectify the problem.
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we put brake fluid in the windscreen wiper bottle of an old laser and the line into a vacuum line. White Smoke? Oh s***t Yes! - good trick :hihi:
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The head gasket was only replaced 70 000km's ago and the white smoke is almost clear.

I thought it was something that cars did when the engine was cold.

I ran it for 10 minutes, I'll take it for a drive and see if it's still doing it after the drive.

If so I'll replace it asap.

I never done a head gasket and aint paying $800 for a mechanic to do it.

Are they easy to do yaself?

I just don my rocker cover gasket 2hrs ago.
You have to be kidding. Of course when you first start a car in winter it will blow white "smoke". It's the same as when on a freezing cold day you breathe out "smoke" without needing a cigarette - it's because the air you are breathing out is warmer than the surrounding air. Same with a cold car. You don't notice it in summer as the ambient temp is that much higher. So now you have everyone (else) thinking you have blown a HG all because you don't put enough info into your posts.
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Did you know that pond water on your dash will turn it green over time? Of course, this ever happening is rare, but it can happen.
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You have to be kidding. Of course when you first start a car in winter it will blow white "smoke". It's the same as when on a freezing cold day you breathe out "smoke" without needing a cigarette - it's because the air you are breathing out is warmer than the surrounding air. Same with a cold car. You don't notice it in summer as the ambient temp is that much higher. So now you have everyone (else) thinking you have blown a HG all because you don't put enough info into your posts.
If I didn't put enough effort in on my posts then how did you pickup on this?
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If I didn't put enough effort in on my posts then how did you pickup on this?
Because at about your 10th post you said you started the car and let it idle for 10 minutes. I was with the HG brigade until then.
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Lol i suggested it might well be a cold exhaust or not started for a while but nobody listens to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. lmao
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Car is blowing a faint white smoke and smells a lot like petrol.

Does this mean it's running rich?
black is rich , white might be head problems but I doubt it
you may have a bad injector or the auto vaccum modulator is about to die and is sucking some fluid from the auto into the induction
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Lol i suggested it might well be a cold exhaust or not started for a while but nobody listens to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. lmao
Yes, I did, and I reckon you're right.
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black is rich , white might be head problems but I doubt it
you may have a bad injector or the auto vaccum modulator is about to die and is sucking some fluid from the auto into the induction
Read the whole thread. It's because the car was cold!
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Sounds like it was cold to me...
What benefits will putting an AU HG on have?
Will i be able to put one on my EBII? (4LTR)
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Sounds like it was cold to me...
What benefits will putting an AU HG on have?
Will i be able to put one on my EBII? (4LTR)
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Yeah it was just cold, usually takes around 10 minutes max to heat up but it took 1/2 an hour today.

AU gaskets are metal and basically fix the head gasket issues.

You get slightly higher compression with an AU gasket.

Make sure you get AU head bolts and the head machined smoother for the AU head gasket.

Yes it will fit the EB II.
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From what i heard its best to just get regular ef/el head bolts?
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I heard AU bolts but I personally don't know.

They use different torque settings which I can't remember now.
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