New Wheels Mag VE 427

DABOSS · 21-11-2007, 03:21 PM

If this has already posted my apol.

But having a quick look through the mag , I noticed the cover is of a CSV enhanced VE GTS with a 7L corvette engine 400kw, 650Nm

1/4 12.9 @ 187kph ( 116mph ) 1870Kg, 6 speed Auto with 3.27 diff gear from memory.
0-100 4.8 I think.

cost around 112k ..

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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Walkinshaw · 21-11-2007, 03:27 PM

mighty unimpressing 1/4mile ET for the horsepower. MPH isnt' bad though

Van D · 21-11-2007, 03:51 PM

12.9 for a 112k holden? :togo:

RG · 21-11-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABOSS

If this has already posted my apol.

But having a quick look through the mag , I noticed the cover is of a CSV enhanced VE GTS with a 7L corvette engine 400kw, 650Nm

1/4 12.9 @ 187kph ( 116mph ) 1870Kg, 6 speed Auto with 3.27 diff gear from memory.
0-100 4.8 I think.

cost around 112k ..

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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It's only a one off from CSV, there is about as much chance of HSV doing the same thing as there is of FPV using the NIZPRO F6 that they are sending to the U.K.

I think I know which one off (well the NIZPRO F6 isn't a one off as they are making a few of them to send over and more when the orders start coming in) I'd prefer. I think the F6 would be a little quicker on the 1/4 and through turns and would probably stop quicker etc etc...

T3ts50 · 21-11-2007, 04:34 PM

Nearly 40K extra and only 12.9 1/4. Not very impressive for a 400kw car IMO.

The Monty · 21-11-2007, 04:38 PM

IIRC, a stock F6 on here (sorry, BMC filter included), ran 12.8 or something.
Awesome way to spend 112 g's.....

XR Martin · 21-11-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

IIRC, a stock F6 on here (sorry, BMC filter included), ran 12.8 or something.
Awesome way to spend 112 g's.....

It may have run 12.8, but not at 116mph. (which is good enough for 11s)

EDIT

Heres a VE that runs 11.65@116mph, so that give you an indication of how quick it could be with good traction.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6NCYXpenB_s

Falcon Freak · 21-11-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DABOSS

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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HSV will release their 7 liter model next year which will KO FPV.

FF

anakha · 21-11-2007, 05:42 PM

The Aussie muscle cars never seem to have the tyre package to make the best use of the engine power.

Did they quote in-gear acceleration times for the CSV?

05MkIIFutura · 21-11-2007, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABOSS

If this has already posted my apol.

But having a quick look through the mag , I noticed the cover is of a CSV enhanced VE GTS with a 7L corvette engine 400kw, 650Nm

1/4 12.9 @ 187kph ( 116mph ) 1870Kg, 6 speed Auto with 3.27 diff gear from memory.
0-100 4.8 I think.

cost around 112k ..

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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hasnt the GTS already cracked 5 seconds?? (4.9 of the top of my head)

Starts up the good old argument that .1 seconds (especially at those 0-100 times) is not worth the extra $30k

Smoke Pursuit · 21-11-2007, 05:53 PM

Gotta remember its gotta be high on reliability..

So at 12.9 for a Warranted car then its probarly pretty good!

ADSXR8 · 21-11-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Gotta remember its gotta be high on reliability..

So at 12.9 for a Warranted car then its probarly pretty good!

Yeah, I applaud Holden/CSv for this. 400kw street car with warranty. Price is on highish side. But I have never added up all the money I have spent on TE50's, GTP's and now the Typhoon on making them go faster!!!! Not a pretty sight

Ives · 21-11-2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anakha

The Aussie muscle cars never seem to have the tyre package to make the best use of the engine power.

Too right. I've seen very high powered stuff with no-name brand of tyres. A lot of people cut costs when it comes to tyres, which is a no no.

VE SS/HSV's Potenza RE050 OEM tyres are pretty decent though. But they should've gone with Potenza RE070.

WASP · 21-11-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T3ts50

Nearly 40K extra and only 12.9 1/4. Not very impressive for a 400kw car IMO.

It not bad for a non-factory built and ADR tested and compliant car. No doubt it's making that 400kw's under not very ideal conditions either (restricted exhaust, induction etc) It's easy to make that power without restriction, it's another thing to have that power in a legally roadworthy vehicle. That's why the DJR's cost so much as well.

Disciple · 21-11-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anakha

The Aussie muscle cars never seem to have the tyre package to make the best use of the engine power.

Did they quote in-gear acceleration times for the CSV?

3.2s in 3rd gear 80-120km/h.

Falc'man · 21-11-2007, 06:48 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about it if its a one off... just hype.

DABOSS, does it say if there are any plans for production?

Steffo · 21-11-2007, 07:08 PM

Tuner cars are hilarious. No matter what marque they're for, often they're no faster then stock despite having huge amounts of power in comparison.

A VE GTS can pull a 12.9 like that thing can, but that thing has the trap speed good for mid-low 11's.

Now if HSV made something with an LS7 in it, that would be quite the spectacle.

Ives · 21-11-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Tuner cars are hilarious. No matter what marque they're for, often they're no faster then stock despite having huge amounts of power in comparison.

Not all tuned cars are stupid. For example :- MiNE's Skyline GT-R... it's the best tuned R34 GT-R yet.

4Vman · 21-11-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABOSS

If this has already posted my apol.

But having a quick look through the mag , I noticed the cover is of a CSV enhanced VE GTS with a 7L corvette engine 400kw, 650Nm

1/4 12.9 @ 187kph ( 116mph ) 1870Kg, 6 speed Auto with 3.27 diff gear from memory.
0-100 4.8 I think.

cost around 112k ..

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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Is that $112K on road drive away price or retail price?

Ives · 21-11-2007, 07:46 PM

$112K = 1x HSV GTS + all the mods.

yift · 21-11-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

Too right. I've seen very high powered stuff with no-name brand of tyres. A lot of people cut costs when it comes to tyres, which is a no no.

VE SS/HSV's Potenza RE050 OEM tyres are pretty decent though. But they should've gone with Potenza RE070.

potenze re070 is only available in 225 45 17 and no other size. this tyre was specially made for the subaru impreza sti 05 onwards model.

MITCHAY · 21-11-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

Not all tuned cars are stupid. For example :- MiNE's Skyline GT-R... it's the best tuned R34 GT-R yet.

Hell I could live with that except maybe in traffic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42KwIMakoaE

Anyways how bloody fast do people want to go? It does 12s, has a crap load of power and I assume it is warranted. I still find the stock GTS pretty nice!

4Vman · 21-11-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

$112K = 1x HSV GTS + all the mods.

Still doesnt answer the question, do you buy the car from CSV (which means adding stamp duty, rego and ORC's to the 112K) or take your car to them?
Who warrants the Car? CSV? is it a full warranty or limited warranty or no warranty? Im sure HSV Wont touch it...

Dazza XLT · 21-11-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Hell I could live with that except maybe in traffic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42KwIMakoaE

Is it just me, or is the voice over bloke from Ironchef on that video?

DABOSS · 21-11-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Still doesnt answer the question, do you buy the car from CSV (which means adding stamp duty, rego and ORC's to the 112K) or take your car to them?
Who warrants the Car? CSV? is it a full warranty or limited warranty or no warranty? Im sure HSV Wont touch it...

I'd say that you'd buy the car 75k + 22K for the engine and other mods =112K. From the Mag.

4Vman · 21-11-2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABOSS

I'd say that you'd buy the car 75k + 22K for the engine and other mods =112K. From the Mag.

Doesn't add up!

Ok let me get this straight, you buy the car from a HSV dealer and drive it out of the showroom for an all up price of 75K, then take it to CSV who modify it for 37K..
The HSV warranty is automatically dead for starters.. im sceptical as to what if any warranty CSV would offer other than for the actual goods installed by them i.e not the car..

MITCHAY · 21-11-2007, 08:31 PM

All warranty asside, it would still be good if it were road legal. Would be interesting to know what sort of deal there's between HSV and CSV if any at all

4Vman · 21-11-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

All warranty asside, it would still be good if it were road legal. Would be interesting to know what sort of deal there's between HSV and CSV if any at all

Is it road legal? (im not saying it isnt)..
Does it pass all the ADR's?
Sorry for the questions, but i CBF'd buying wheels just to make some kind of sence out of all this and get some kind of "perspective"....

flappist · 21-11-2007, 08:55 PM

If it is the genuine 7L corvette engine I wonder how they got it ADR and Euro3 certified?
I suppose a phone call to CSV will solve all the mysteries.....

Bent8 · 21-11-2007, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DABOSS

If this has already posted my apol.

But having a quick look through the mag , I noticed the cover is of a CSV enhanced VE GTS with a 7L corvette engine 400kw, 650Nm

1/4 12.9 @ 187kph ( 116mph ) 1870Kg, 6 speed Auto with 3.27 diff gear from memory.
0-100 4.8 I think.

cost around 112k ..

But this is a one off from CSV , HSV having not made any as yet, if they do then good luck to Ford.

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All that power and it just get's into the 12's?!!....

The VE GTS can hit 100 in 5.2sec and the quarter (MOTOR mag) in 13.2sec @172km/h...where is that extra 125hp/100Nm going in the CSV??..

The new C63 ($150k) is priced close to the CSV, I'll take the AMG thanks...here's the latest test results from Car and Driver for the C63...0-60mph 3.9sec, 12.3sec @116pmh :evil3: now that's bloody fast for a 3800 pound Merc taxi...

I have one word for that CSV...pfft!!