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Old 11-01-2013, 07:38 PM   #1
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Angry I've been scammed !!!

Buyers be aware there is a scammer on gumtree advertising AU Fairlane parts for sale.
I transferred $95 into this persons account for an au fairlane headlight which included postage with tracking.
After a week i'd heard nothing so tried ringing him but his phone was turned off, since then i've sent countless sms, emails through gum tree and phone calls but nothing.
There is 25 ads by this f_____ar__hole, he is also on other sites so beware
I rang an address which is on one of his ads which is a museum/gallery in NSW the lady i spoke to new nothing about car parts for sale on gumtree.
since then my daughter who is more computer savvy than me googled his number only to find out this person has scammed other people, one of for $325 who had his bank freeze the money in the scammers account, only then to receive threatening emails and phone calls.
Apparralently the scammer rang the bank several times portraying a solicator and bank manager he also tried to con the bank saying he needed the money because his mother needs surgery.

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Old 11-01-2013, 07:42 PM   #2
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:42 PM   #3
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Lesson... Gumtree is only good for pick ups, unlike ebay where you can get buyer protection.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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i've brought of gumtree a fews time with now problems pioneer 7" flip out, 450.00 bucks
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:52 PM   #5
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is this the guy
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sprin...ly0/1012234402
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:59 PM   #6
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No mate his ads say Fairfield area NSW phone number 0466378691.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:02 PM   #7
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What a *****
Wouldn't it be great if u could find out where he is and about 12 people paid him a visit

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Yeah we're all here to pick up a headlight mate.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:02 PM   #8
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Contact your bank and do a charge back ASAP. More then likely he would have taken the money out so his account will go in debt and be charged some absurd fee, he'll lose money if he does this often enough! Assuming people do chargebacks.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:11 PM   #9
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I'll be going to my bank ASAP.
the gumtree ad id number 1010280860, he is also using this phone number 0434626377
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Doesn't even have the brains to throw away the phone and get another one so the number isn't suspect... *sigh*... even criminals are getting dumber.
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No mate his ads say Fairfield area NSW phone number 0466378691.
hey i seen that one. have you reported it to gumtree
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:24 PM   #12
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No mate his ads say Fairfield area NSW phone number 0466378691.
Using the museum as an address, geesh

and this one; The Horsley Drive, Sydney NSW 2164

Using names like Dennis and Sam?

Must have an identity crisis and alzheimer's


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Old 11-01-2013, 08:32 PM   #13
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:09 PM   #14
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No mate his ads say Fairfield area NSW phone number 0466378691.
hey i seen that one. have you reported it to gumtree
Yes I wasted no time letting gumtree know what is going on.
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Here he is selling a whole car!
http://www.myauto.com.au/used-cars/2...sed-88854.html

It's white in the pics, and colour in the ad is listed as white. RTA says car is silver:
Rego: BC83MF
Vehicle: 2002 SILVER MIT VERADA SEDAN

He's Michael here
Note the second phone number (0434.....) is used in this one, but I got to it by searching google for 0466378691.

On this next one, he's Denis from wetherill park nsw:
http://www.cartime.com.au/private/ca...stingID=137456

This guy is a pro (pro crook).

Also using this phone number on gumtree for the same verada as above:
0409243745
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wethe...her/1011533328
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #16
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He's a busy little boy isn't he ?

http://www.myauto.com.au/used-cars/2...sed-88854.html

http://www.cartime.com.au/private/ca...stingID=137456

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automo...er=TP005511650

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automo...er=TP005502358

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automo...er=TP005505756
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #17
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Thanks for warning everyone. Can you call him on these numbers. If so I will turn my number sending off and call them all,at all hrs of the night. I am always up working on the computer.
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Probably a pre paid sim. Basically untraceable to who owns it. Would have bought it so that he could scam people like this.

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:17 PM   #19
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You can report him to the Police, their fraud squad will look into it, especially considering he's so busy.
We had a guy in Perth recently renting out a room that didn't exist, he got caught out and charged with about 4 frauds from memory.
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Probably a pre paid sim. Basically untraceable to who owns it. Would have bought it so that he could scam people like this.

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Not necessarily. You still need to activate a pre paid sim. That means you can either activate it as an existing customer or as a new customer. If you try a new customer so your phone company doesn't link you, you still need an address and a license number. Otherwise anyone could get a sim and discuss plans for illegal activity and not be traced. I remember sometime ago a rep from Telstra telling me you can put in any random info but even with correct info I have trouble activating sims for my clients, so not sure how the fraudulent route would work.
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I agree with jaydee ^^^^^ cannot understand why it was not reported to police.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:31 PM   #22
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I just had a thought! Phone companies can look up a number and provide all the details that had been provided at activation. That means if you worked at Telstra and that is a Telstra number or at Optus and its an Optus number etc you could find out all the information, and check the other numbers for a link. Not sure i'd risk my job on it though! Have seen it done in the past though.
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Would have thought you would need a warrant from the police to do a phone company search.
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My partner works for optus and their are huge fines involved if you get caught giving out private information aswell as criminal charges.
Better to let the cops handle it and you have a rego number for them to get details from aswell.

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Would have thought you would need a warrant from the police to do a phone company search.
Well, you can't just ring a phone company and details from a phone number. Although, think of this.

You go into the a Telstra/ Optus/ Vodafone shop etc. and they bring up your details via your phone number. Before any changes are made to your account they ask for your address, name and D.O.B to confirm that you are the account holder. That means they can find out the details of ANY phone number that is from the company they work at.

An example of this happening is, Joe gets a job at the local Optus store, his friend comes in and says "someone rang me up and made all these threats, can you find out who they are?", Joe then proceeds to help his buddy out while committing multiple offenses against the law and company policy. His buddy gets the info he wants and uses that to scare the guy threatening him.

Back to the point, a number is traceable unless fraudulent information had been provided but as I said, I don't believe it would work. Anyone care to prove it does work and admit to fraud lol?
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Use this name John smith, licence number 067544357, address 32 high st, dob 12/10/2012. There you go enough detail to set a mobile phone account up all fake.

Phone companies are not linked up to any RTA and you can buy a SIM card from the supermarket and set it up over the phone or net.
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Your only 3 months old sir? Chee you grow fast
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Use this name John smith, licence number 067544357, address 32 high st, dob 12/10/2012. There you go enough detail to set a mobile phone account up all fake.

Phone companies are not linked up to any RTA and you can buy a SIM card from the supermarket and set it up over the phone or net.
As I said, I'm not sure, as a Network Tech I deal a lot with phone companies. Setting up fake accounts for mobile broadband isn't part of what I do haha.
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But I get your point. Very easy to get a pre paid from a service station with a fake ID. To the OP, unfortunately, you case is a relatively small case to follow up with the cops. Best bet is to send a detailed email to gumtree and what ever his using to ban his ip address.
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We are too soft in this sort of crime. Tell me, with computer tracking technology via Ip address and with mobile phone signal tracking exactly how long would it take to bust this guy and throw the book at him? 30min? 1hr perhaps? I mean, if they could even be bothered? Internet crime is rampant and will go up not down.

Can you even do a charge back from regular savings accounts to other savings accounts?

Good luck, let us know how it goes.
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