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Old 20-02-2013, 08:29 AM   #1
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Default Ford US Mulling Uni-Body US Ranger Replacement - Lifeline for Falcon Ute?

Spotted this on Autoblog this morning, it doesn't mention the falcon but it talks about a significantly smaller package than the World Ranger:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/18/f...r-replacement/

And this from pickuptrucks.com:

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/02...yers-gone.html

Shows that although Ford are partially right in that some people have deserted the small pickup market for alternative low cost transport, the rest of them have migrated over to Toyota....

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Old 20-02-2013, 09:59 AM   #2
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Default Re: Ford US Mulling Uni-Body US Ranger Replacement - Lifeline for Falcon Ute?

send them over some FGs with ecoboost fitted. That should sort them out.
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Old 20-02-2013, 10:39 AM   #3
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I started reading that and a big red flag came up when they mentioned price.

You also have to consider some form of naturally aspirated 4 cylinder if you want entry level.

There had been some rumours floating around of a D3 based pickup but it was more often then not also related to a new Explorer Sport Trac etc.
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Default Re: Ford US Mulling Uni-Body US Ranger Replacement - Lifeline for Falcon Ute?

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There had been some rumours floating around of a D3 based pickup but it was more often then not also related to a new Explorer Sport Trac etc.
Yes I seem to recall that. AWD would be a requirement as well (or at least the availability of it)
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Old 20-02-2013, 12:12 PM   #5
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Default Re: Ford US Mulling Uni-Body US Ranger Replacement - Lifeline for Falcon Ute?

I think they get a vehicle more along the lines of a FWD/AWD Transit Connect Ute. But I bet Ford AU will once again try to flog the concept of a Falcon Ute to teh US to no avail...
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Something like a new Bantam based on the Transit Connect might work.

I don't think Falcon ute really makes sense without Falcon. They will want to be selling 50K+ units a year as well or at least have that capacity.
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But I bet Ford AU will once again try to flog the concept of a Falcon Ute to teh US to no avail...
But did this even happen? Such a vehicle would need to have a very flexible platform architecture to support AWD, as well as 1 tonne payload, 2 tonne towing and probably a dual cab option as well

IMO a Territory based ute would probably make more sense, for the US market anyway because it can support all those things and there is no vehicle already in the range to clash with it. But they have the D3 based Explorer that can support all these variations anyway...
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I reckon that they should manufacture the Falc Ute there (and here)
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The vehicle Ford NA was after was a Ford Courier/Bantam, basically the Fiesta based Ute that was produced in South Africa until late 2011.
They're after something that's smaller than Ranger and can be sold for around $15,000 to $20,000.

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The vehicle Ford NA was after was a Ford Courier/Bantam, basically the Fiesta based Ute that was produced in South Africa until late 2011.
They're after something that's smaller than Ranger and can be sold for around $15,000 to $20,000.

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I like the simplicity of that (Bantam/Courier)
They still have it on Ford's Brazillian website, can anybody confirm if it is still being manufactured there?
Either way, we should be tasked with development seeing as a)we invented the ute b) we did such a great job with T6
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Old 20-02-2013, 08:28 PM   #11
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I like the simplicity of that (Bantam/Courier)
They still have it on Ford's Brazillian website, can anybody confirm if it is still being manufactured there?
Either way, we should be tasked with development seeing as a)we invented the ute b) we did such a great job with T6
Yep, base it on Ecosport FWD and AWD in single and double Cab...
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Yes I seem to recall that. AWD would be a requirement as well (or at least the availability of it)
Whereas that makes me think Territory ute.

Ecoboost 4 & 6' + v6 Deisel. RWD & AWD its to big really, but would be cool.
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I hear falcon ute may be in trouble with no 5 star rating with no side airbags. Which 5 star will be mandatory 2015. So maybe no fu ute.
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Old 20-02-2013, 09:45 PM   #14
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I hear falcon ute may be in trouble with no 5 star rating with no side airbags. Which 5 star will be mandatory 2015. So maybe no fu ute.
Fairly sure FG ute is now 5 stars.
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Its already 5 stars
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Yep, side airbags as standard.
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Whereas that makes me think Territory ute.

Ecoboost 4 & 6' + v6 Deisel. RWD & AWD its to big really, but would be cool.
I guess I'm thinking from Dearborn's perspective, using D3/Explorer as a base would mean it already uses corporate engines, is LHD etc.

But yes a dual cab "lifestyle" ute built off the Territory's platform would be kinda cool.
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Default Re: Ford US Mulling Uni-Body US Ranger Replacement - Lifeline for Falcon Ute?

A hack job on a Transit Connect seems more likely. They've already said the US Ranger was replaced by the Transit Connect and the F-150.
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A hack job on a Transit Connect seems more likely. They've already said the US Ranger was replaced by the Transit Connect and the F-150.
The huge reduction in Mid Sized Truck sales away From Ranger certainly didn't go to competitors,
most buyers now own mid sized Utilities (For Aussies, that's SUVs and Crossovers) or other vehicles.

At the start of T6 design, Ford NA wanted Ranger to be a much smaller vehicle for their US needs
but tht vehicle wouldn't fit under the product envelope. I suspect that Ford NA wanted a small Courier..
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Chevrolet South America have the Montana



Volkswagen South America have the Saveiro



Something similar from Ford would be great.
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Whats the go with them having vents in the tray sides?
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Whats the go with them having vents in the tray sides?
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They're not vents they are steps. Somewhere to stick your foot to reach onto the roof or into the tray.

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I like the simplicity of that (Bantam/Courier)
They still have it on Ford's Brazillian website, can anybody confirm if it is still being manufactured there?
Either way, we should be tasked with development seeing as a)we invented the ute b) we did such a great job with T6
My thoughts exactly.
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Chevrolet South America have the Montana

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Volkswagen South America have the Saveiro

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Something similar from Ford would be great.
I remember something similar being built in Australia.

Oh yeah... the RTV.
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Interesting article to throw into the discussion...

http://jalopnik.com/ford-might-creat...ment-296497003
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Ford bantam Ute, used to be sold in South Africa - based on last Fiesta.

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