According to GumTree Your Falcon is Not Cool

[DOC]

Cons
If you are looking for cool styling, the Ford Falcon is not the answer
This is not a “destination” car – but then neither is its price

Gumtree can now value your car and gives great advice as well.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/pages/car-...rd/falcon.html

[Trump]

One would need his head read if they used scumtree as their barometer of "cool".

[XR50T]

Haha read the FPV cons.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/pages/car-.../ford/fpv.html

[arronm]

Yep gumtree man doesn't like the FG-X. But he knows FPVs are cool

I totally agree

[XR6WGN]

"The Falcon is built here by Ford Australia. Models currently on the new-car market include the sedan and 4x4"

It's factual too!! (or maybe they are getting Drhu's FAWD mixed up with a factory 4X4)

[XR6WGN]

Originally Posted by XR50T

Haha read the FPV cons.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/pages/car-.../ford/fpv.html

there's that 4X4 reference again!!

"FPV has been responsible for some tyre-melting Utes, turbocharged 4x4s, and a range of fire-breathing Falcons"

Maybe he's seen some models we haven't!!

[SSD-85]

Umm...

F6X = FPV Turbo 4x4.

[Bulletime]

Chinese?

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by SSD-85

Umm...

F6X = FPV Turbo 4x4.

I think the point was, Territorys are AWD, not 4WD ;)


So not sure Ford Aus, or FPV ever made a 4x4

[Gothefalcon]

Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I think the point was, Territorys are AWD, not 4WD ;)
So not sure Ford Aus, or FPV ever made a 4x4

Yes, Ford did.. back in 1972 ...



Here's a few Factory XY Falcon 4x4 Utes, alongside my BF2 AWD Falcon Wagon

You can read a bit more about them here... http://www.truckjungle.com/2012/08/1...alcon-4x4-ute/

Dhru

[Cav]

I think having an average price over a number of models/years is meaningless.

I did find however that the charts at the bottom of the page contained better information.

For example. I will be putting my 2007 Falcon Ghia (150,000kms) on the market soon and I am tossing up what price to ask - I am thinking around just under $9,000. $8,900 seems much cheaper than $9,000

Maybe I'll get 8 or high 7s.

The chart shows the average price is $7,549

Given that this is an average, it seems pretty well on the money, if you will excuse the pun.

[GT0132]

A 2003 BA MK2 Typhoon the first according to Gumtree

[Falcman0o7]

Reviews by 13 year old VL fan boy.

[Sabantien]

Mine is totes cool. It's got climate control!

[XR6WGN]

That's a very good looking Ghia there Cav. Pity I just purchased my XR50, I could have been interested in that.

[Mr Brooksy]

And apparently "The only real competition for the Ford FPV division is Holden HPV."

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Cav

I think having an average price over a number of models/years is meaningless.

I did find however that the charts at the bottom of the page contained better information.

For example. I will be putting my 2007 Falcon Ghia (150,000kms) on the market soon and I am tossing up what price to ask - I am thinking around just under $9,000. $8,900 seems much cheaper than $9,000

Maybe I'll get 8 or high 7s.

The chart shows the average price is $7,549

Given that this is an average, it seems pretty well on the money, if you will excuse the pun.

image

Best looking non fpv b series right there.

[Pedro]

Problem is Gumtree (and eBay) are owned by a Dutch company so it's easy to see why it's all Double-Dutch.

[irish2]

Ford Fpv' Competition

The only real competition for the Ford FPV division is Holden HPV.

Apparently the only competition to FPV is Herpes.

Edit: Should have refreshed the page before commenting.

[Ben73]

I love this. I am getting all my car reviews from Gumtree from now on.

The Range Rover sport from Land Rover (a subsidiary of Tata) is a high-performance luxury ute made in the United Kingdom. In production since 2005, the Range Rover Sport has long been hailed as the ultimate mid-size ute. The chassis of the vehicle is based on the Land Rover Discovery 3, combined with a separate body-on-frame chassis that makes the car ideal for off-roading. Despite building off of the Discovery 3’s design, the Range Rover Sport is a smaller car in almost every way. The ute was named Australia Magazine’s 4x4 of the year in 2008.

Range Rovers are now utes.

That reviews was under Range Rover not Range Rover Sport. I believe proper Range Rovers chassis are not based off the Discovery.

And Grand Cherokee's are bad because they don't offer a diesel. I believe every GC since the early 2000's has offered diesel.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by irish2

Ford Fpv' Competition

The only real competition for the Ford FPV division is Holden HPV.

Apparently the only competition to FPV is Herpes.

Edit: Should have refreshed the page before commenting.

Haha . If gumtree wrote an article about Subaru, I wonder if they would mention the Subaru WRX STD edition

[superfly]

My kids think I'm cool. That's all that matters.

[ZGM86]

Originally Posted by Gothefalcon

Yes, Ford did.. back in 1972 ...

image

Here's a few Factory XY Falcon 4x4 Utes, alongside my BF2 AWD Falcon Wagon

You can read a bit more about them here... http://www.truckjungle.com/2012/08/1...alcon-4x4-ute/

Dhru

Slightly off topic, but I love your wagon! I wish they made them from factory, I'd have that over the Territory any day.

[supershifty]

Is Mr J Dowling (esquire) the ****tard that does the Ford vehicle Gumtree reviews?

Cheers!

[Blue Shadow]

Scumtree, now there would not have been alot of sciencee gone into that

[Crazy Dazz]

The current average price for a Ford Falcon for sale is $7,334. This has increased by 11.56% since the previous month.

So contrary to popular misconception, Falcons are a great investment.

[Crazy Dazz]

A quick browse of gumtree has me convinced somebody has dumped a load of mind-altering drugs into Perth's water supply.

I guess that's the problem when you offer something free, people can't act normally or responsibly. You've now got every wally and their dog scratching around behind their shed for bits of rusted crap they can post on Gumtree for $500 "Firm, no time wasters"

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

One would need his head read if they used scumtree as their barometer of "cool".

I've more than successfully bought and sold a few things on Gumtree (including my current ride) so I'd be interested in knowing why you (and others here) call it "Scumtree".

Have you had a less-than-satisfactory experience buying or selling there? Would you not agree that it's better to purchase a used vehicle from a Gumtree seller than one from a used car lot, and that its pricing is far more negotiable and without the built-in overhead costs of dealers?

[DOC]

Originally Posted by SYZ

so I'd be interested in knowing why you (and others here) call it "Scumtree".?

would not take it to heart it is just a common term similar to flea bay, try not to read much into it.

Probably derived its name from the free listing attracting a higher share of freebie advertisers over time, is all.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by SYZ

I've more than successfully bought and sold a few things on Gumtree (including my current ride) so I'd be interested in knowing why you (and others here) call it "Scumtree".

Have you had a less-than-satisfactory experience buying or selling there?

The problems with gumtree can be traced back to its ownership. Yes, its owned by flea-bay. So they have no interest in improving it too much, they don't want it to compete with their paying service.

Puts simply, for every genuine seller, there is at least an equal number of crooks and scammers. Plus around a 10:1 ratio of garbage ads, from people who either have no clue, or are only advertising their p&j to satisfy her indoors, or are just trying their luck listing random pieces of crap they found laying around.

I reckon if you just charged people $1 a month for each ad, the volume would drop by 90%, and it would be much easier to navigate.

The wider problem with something like gumtree, is that people incorrectly see it as some kind of market barometer, not realising their rationale is fundamentally flawed.
If you could see a record of what similar items had actually sold for (as you can to some extent on eBay, and on real estate sites) it would work. But by definition all you see is the asking price of unsold items.

Originally Posted by SYZ

Would you not agree that it's better to purchase a used vehicle from a Gumtree seller than one from a used car lot, and that its pricing is far more negotiable and without the built-in overhead costs of dealers?

Funny you should say that, because I have found the exact opposite.
Despite most car salesmen being horses a___s, dealers are in the business to sell cars. They know what a car is worth in the market and price accordingly. And when they get it wrong and the car is hard to shift, they lower the price to meet the market.
When was the last time you saw a dealer write in an ad "I'm not going any lower, if the car doesn't sell I will just de-register it and park it in my shed"?
Your average gumtree wally has no flaming idea what their car is really worth. They see a dealer with an advertised price of $X, and price theirs the same "firm, no time wasters" completely ignoring that the dealers car maybe fully detailed, workshop tested, must guarantee a clear title, pass roadworthy, carries a statutory warranty, and probably still includes some negotiating room.
Also, dealers know that after-market additions add literally nothing to the value of a car. Yet old mate on gumtree thinks adding a $500 muffler has increased his value by $1,000.