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08-06-2018, 10:18 AM | #1 | ||
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Here you go guys Motor mag has finally got their hands on a 2018 manual and auto Mustang GT.
They took both cars to the Heathcote Dragway and had a few attempts at matching ford's claimed 0 to 100 figures. Ford's Claimed 0 to 100 figures for the 2018 mustang are 4.3 sec for the auto and 4.6 for the manual. After several attempts these were Motor's best figures: 2018 Mustang GT auto: 0 to 100 in 4.53sec, 0-400m in 12.49sec 2018 Mustang GT manual: 0 to 100 in 5.21sec, 0-400m in 13.2sec https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/201...ration-testing |
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08-06-2018, 10:33 AM | #2 | ||
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Thanks for sharing the article!
The problem always with tests like these, is it comes down to who is behind the wheel... The Stig or a motoring journo. |
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08-06-2018, 04:05 PM | #3 | ||
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5.21 for the manual in 2018?
Hmmm
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08-06-2018, 04:57 PM | #4 | ||
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Unprepared track and standard tire pressure and
I also didn’t hear the words sports pack mentioned so that means 3.15:1 gears for the auto not 3.5:1 The manual now has a close ratio TR6060 box and 3.5:1 rear axle gears but the first three gears are now much taller than the2017 car’s wide ratio MT82-D5 gearbox. |
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08-06-2018, 05:11 PM | #5 | ||
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Iv seen youtube clips of these and the guys in the states are running very high 11s. Are theirs the same spec as ours?
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08-06-2018, 05:19 PM | #6 | ||
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I've never been able to run as fast or quick at Heathcote as I do at Calder. Same car, same driver and one time the same weekend!
I find it harder to launch at Heathcote on street tyres, and the altitude is higher than Calder! But I always read articles about actual track times....
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08-06-2018, 05:29 PM | #7 | ||
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Good question, the 2015 - 2017 GT RHD V8 model had different shape/design exhaust headers due to the steering column, the result of that was this caused the RHD model have a fraction less horse power quoted than the LHD model. Is this still the case with the MY18 model?
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08-06-2018, 08:41 PM | #8 | ||
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Well the 2018 has about 30-40 rwkw more than the outgoing mustang, as herrods dynoed a 2018 manual at 314 rwkw, so regardless if it loses a few kws to the American one, it’s a big step up on the 2017.
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08-06-2018, 09:43 PM | #10 | ||
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And now......3 star safety rating instead of just 2..........
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08-06-2018, 09:51 PM | #11 | ||
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08-06-2018, 09:53 PM | #12 | ||
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Id love the motor and box in my s3 au xr8,id turf that wheezer so fast.....
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09-06-2018, 05:06 AM | #17 | ||
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So "motoring journalists" are taking a swipe at the Mustang? Haven't seen that before.
It must really stew their prunes that they have been slagging off the Mustang for 50 years, and people still keep buying them. |
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09-06-2018, 05:57 AM | #18 | ||
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Sales look like flattening(down 80.9%) But could be anticipation of new updated model.Think the initial “excitement” has now passed.Even Ford concedes that it remains to be seen whether it can keep that kind of momentum up.It will probably settle down quite a bit on the sales arena.Cheers
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Of what non buyers may think. You can order a Mustang so many different ways that change the character of it. Guess that’s why Ford sell so many more than Camaro. |
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09-06-2018, 10:21 AM | #20 | ||
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09-06-2018, 11:09 AM | #21 | ||
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Not likely there'll be one parked in my yard any time soon but it still irritates me a little bit that countries outside the U.S. don't really get the chance to buy a fully loaded Mustang . Maybe one day they'll do that .
Any idea what the HSV Camaro will be set up like ? First ones are due by mid to late July last time I noticed ..Despite only 1000 or so being built in the first run , and the big price tag I'm betting they'll soon draw back some buyers considering Mustangs . Maybe then Ford will up the anty a bit more with some Premium or Performance packages a bit more . That'd be cool ... |
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09-06-2018, 09:09 PM | #26 | ||
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Keep in mind that even though it's a Mustang, we are getting another market's car
with different tastes and preference to our own,so there's always going to be conflict on styling and expected features. Let's gauge actual buyer response to the car and see how many are prepared to throw down cash for the chance to own the latest HP coupe from Ford. I have a feeling that orders are good. Last edited by jpd80; 09-06-2018 at 09:14 PM. |
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I've noticed the people most bothered by the safety rating are those who'd never buy one anyway, even with 5 stars. As mentioned, No Falcon ever made would score above 2 stars with todays testing guidelines. The ratings system is flawed in my opinion. It's also funny how the practical and economical ZB Commodore with its 5 star safety rating is outsold by an impractical V8 coupe with a 'poor' safety score. But comparing apples with apples, what other coupes score 5 star i wonder? I imagine very few, if any. |
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10-06-2018, 11:04 AM | #28 | |||
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As I've mentioned before... No Mustang in over 50 years has ever had a safety rating of more than 3 stars by today's rating system, but that did not stop it becoming the best selling sports car of all time. Does anyone here who worries about safety ratings ride a motorbike? - 0 Stars Does anyone here smoke? - 0 Stars Smoking, Motorbikes and Mustangs are for risk takers. If you have a family and young kids, then, by all means, buy a Camry or other 5 star rated car. Horses for courses as they say. |
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In 2018 is it really worthy of 5 stars and if it is, does it mean a vehicle with lane departure, autonomous braking etc. etc. get 6 or 7 stars and at which point do we stop just adding stars to keep up in order to differentiate and realise that whilst the Falcon and Commodore of that era were safe cars for their time, they are fast becoming obsolete in that regard and by todays standards of safety tech, really only 2 or 3 star cars. Is a niche full sized passenger vehicle designed to a budget by 2008 really a 5 star car in 2018? Is 3 stars the modern version of 5 stars and what does a genuine 5 star car feature in 2018? The Falcon/Commodore would have been 3 star cars at some stage and improved, if the Mustang is currently a 3 star vehicle under modern standards wouldn't it simply suggests there is room for improvement. |
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10-06-2018, 04:35 PM | #30 | ||
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But that's the thing, they toughened up getting five stars rather than adding a sixth or seventh star
so the scoring was made much tighter and includes the items you mentioned, not having expected equipment is now seen as failure to gain sufficient points for the five star rating. This is also why buyers are now completely confused, the standard has changed and cars that used to rate at five stars would barely get four by today's scoring system. The issue with Mustangs is that the cars was designed to meet USA IIHS crash test procedures, I recon they just copy-pasted it in for the Euro NCAP test and got their figures burnt, the tests are different enough on scoring systems and side crash test versus pole test to make enough difference to make Mustang look bad.... Last edited by jpd80; 10-06-2018 at 04:42 PM. |
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