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Old 18-06-2006, 09:23 AM   #1
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Hey all. I finally broke into the 14 seconds down the 1/4. I ran a 14.89 @ 98.1 mph. With the mods listed below and a new set of tyres. :jab:

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Old 18-06-2006, 09:50 AM   #2
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Congradulations mate good to see more e-series getting faster
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Old 18-06-2006, 10:03 AM   #3
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jesus scan the slip. Not that I dont completely believe you, but thats pretty quick for some simple mods.
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Old 18-06-2006, 10:09 AM   #4
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Believe it when you hear it. I was there to see it.

Makes the V8 look sad.
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Believe it when you hear it. I was there to see it.

Makes the V8 look sad.
Well its like me saying that once I have my exhaust done that I will run a 15 flat...not to sure about that.
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Old 18-06-2006, 10:32 AM   #6
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the 14.9 I 'could' believe but not the 98 mph... typo?
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Old 18-06-2006, 10:46 AM   #7
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It was measured on the latest g-tech on the market, a 14.89 @ 98.1mph.
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It was measured on the latest g-tech on the market, a 14.89 @ 98.1mph.
oohhh well your parameters must be wrong... no way on earth could a 6 potter Falc do 98mph without making some serious horsepower
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Well on my speedo the needle was just below the 160kmh line so im pretty sure it 98mph is correct....
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G-tech PFFFFFFFFFFHH!!!!!!! It's like one of the other e series boys who has a EB GT mockup. "yeah it runs 14.8 mate", lined him up and blew him by 4 car lengths running a pedestrian 14.7.
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98mph is low to flat 14's.... 98mph doesnt equal 14.9 ..... Your mods don't equal 14.9

Something is wrong,, go to a track quoting g tech figures is misleading.
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yeah

g-tech = Emo

The track is the only way to guage a cars performance, none of this dyno crap, g tech is even worse.
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g-tech = Emo

The track is the only way to guage a cars performance, none of this dyno crap, g tech is even worse.

I'll give you a tip. My 1/8th mile TRACK time is the same as what this EXACT G-tech gave. So maybe work that out.
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Ah...that explains it...G-techs arent the most accurate things to measure your quarter mile with...I think they tend to read a little on the 'quick' side...
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g-tech = Emo

The track is the only way to guage a cars performance, none of this dyno crap, g tech is even worse.

I'll give you a tip. My 1/8th mile TRACK TIME and MPH is the same as what this EXACT G-tech gave. So maybe work that out.
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I'll give you a tip. My 1/8th mile TRACK TIME and MPH is the same as what this EXACT G-tech gave. So maybe work that out.
Dont get cranky at me because someone wasted some cash on one.

They are fun, but if your going to qoute it then you leave yourself open as there are to mnay variables with those things.

Im not saying they are completely inaccurate, but with those mods its seems rather unlikely that it would do a 14.8 at a track.

Your basically saying that a EL XR6 with an exhaust will do a 14.8, and HSVEATRS car doesn't have an LSD or 3.45's (not in sig anyway) :

edit: if you go to the track and produce a 14.8 as your car is currently now then Ill happily eat my own words
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I'll give you a tip. My 1/8th mile TRACK time is the same as what this EXACT G-tech gave
That is a worry, because the track time SHOULD be less than the G-Tech time.

Why's that? Because of roll-out. At the track the car is actually moving before it brakes the beams that start timing. Depending on how deep you stage, your car can be moving at a reasonable pace before the timing beam is broken.

G-Tech starts timing as soon as the car starts moving.
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98mph is low to flat 14's.... 98mph doesnt equal 14.9 ..... Your mods don't equal 14.9

Something is wrong,, go to a track quoting g tech figures is misleading.
I run 13.9 at 98.5mph
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OED666 has a built T5, 4.11:1 diff gears, AU XR6 HP engine with a big cam, chip, full exhaust (though with a dodgy cat flange thats way too small) in his ED, last dyno run was 217rwhp and managed a 14.2@98mph at willowbank the other week...even when my car was NA and I was doing consistant, easy 14.5s, I still wasn't pulling 98mph.

As I said, G-tech aren't anywhere near as accurate as a track.
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just goto the track and get a real time, if its 14.9 then you'll shut up everyone, if its not, then you'll know g-techs arnt ALWAYS accurate.
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Well, the nearst track is probly cawlder so i wont be goin down a 1/4 any time soon. Only got the 1/8 here. So i will retract my statement of the time i ran, till i actually run it down a 1/4 and will let you know. Just for reference, i ran a 9.721 @ 72.22 mph down the 1/8. Since then i hav installed a manual computer and a K&N pannel filter (yet to run it again). Thanks for the feedback :
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Your basically saying that a EL XR6 with an exhaust will do a 14.8, and HSVEATRS car doesn't have an LSD or 3.45's (not in sig anyway)

your car may have the similar running gear but a falcon is lighter than a ghia :P

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the fact is, the time is POSSIBLE.
but not proven until done at a real track.
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98mph isnt THAT big

At heathcote all my 14.88/14.89s were recorded with a trap speed of 98.87mph


But like all the others say, G-tech is a load of , Go to the real races, only way to know for sure.
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98mph in a Falcon is big enough that you really should be running low 14s, and with a good launch and decent gearing, high 13's.

Southy, what sort of 60' times on those 14.8 @ 98mph timeslips of yours? And at what gear and rpm are you crossing the line?
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Southy, you must be getting a crap start and then hauling a$$ home.

My 14.78 @94.48

Ill be cranky if you have those times with such little money spent. id also congratulate you
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I believe Southy ran a 2.3 60 with 2.92 diff gears, so he has potential to go a lot faster.
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your car may have the similar running gear but a falcon is lighter than a ghia :P

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Yeah I knew that, I wasn't talking about my car, just EL XR6's in general.

My car is probably a slow POS, I doubt ill ever take ti down the 1/4; although I must admit I am curious. Unless its a T5 I dont have much interest in it performance wise.
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southy has an open centre.. im sure if he upgraded to an lsd a 14.5 would be on the cards easy..
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a 98MPH pass is definitely low 14's!!! and i know!!!

i did a 14.56 at 98.28MPH, and i did my PB of 14.268 @ 98.19MPH...
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