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Old 17-08-2006, 08:47 PM   #1
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Default About Cams for 5lt V8

In the not too distant future I will be shopping around for a cam for my 5Lt LTD.I have no idea about what type,how much pricewise and what the benefits apart from the obvious and also what else I will need.Being a new E-series member with 1 cruise under my belt I am hoping you guys can shed some light on this subject and share your knowledge.Thanks in advance,,,Andy

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Old 17-08-2006, 11:19 PM   #2
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What mods have you already done to the car and what are your goals with it?

If its a stocker or close to it I would uncorking the intake and exhaust first. Depending on budget go for headers and cat back. Also look for either an AU/Explorer manifold and if you can stretch for it some new heads. Some shorter rear gears and a higher stall converter would help. All of those things, as well as a larger MAF and throttle body I would consider before a cam change.
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:23 PM   #3
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Yes..its stock at the moment.First mod next week is catback 2.5" exhaust..I planned to get the headers and hi flo cat converter a little later....then a few weeks after that..wheels and tyres.Then I planned to start on the motor.Thanks very much for your feedback.I will be taking it all in.regards,,,Andy
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:25 PM   #4
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I agree with anakha.

cam means basicly dissasembling half the motor and is not a quick/easy job. do the bolt ons first then do heads and cam at the same time. depending on what cam you choose you could get the heads/springs/rockers done to suit.
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:29 PM   #5
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Unless you change the heads now, i wouldnt recommend changing the cat, it'll outflow the E7's easily
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:31 PM   #6
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Goals are mainly street use and club cruising but would like the motor to be moderately(Medium) beefed up for my own personal enjoyment..cheers,,Andy
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:34 PM   #7
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cool..so im doing things in the right order then...bolt ons(exhaust) first then do the heads and cam and cat after that.
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:37 PM   #8
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Head port etc but if your serious you would be better off with better heads. Either GT40'Ps (Ford) or aftermarket(Edelbrock,AFR,Trickflow etc)..
Good deals going around with the ford heads and explorer manifolds which would be your best bet if wanting "Factory Ford"....
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Old 17-08-2006, 11:43 PM   #9
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I sold the worked T3 GT40P heads off my car to offyaguts and he ran that in an auto EF/L(?) Fairmont with the trickflow TFS1 cam and it ran about 98mph over the 1/4 with no stally or good tyres........

The GT40P's (best of the iron heads anyway) run around $800-$1300 depending on valve gear etc and will be the single greatest gain I would say- the explorer manifold should be done same time to maximise the gain from the heads and you might as well do the cam same time........ As others have said it will end up being a big job.

Hell, modding a V8 in ANY way, turns out to be a big job..... can we get a show of hands from those who spent three times what they thought they were going to? :
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.. can we get a show of hands from those who spent three times what they thought they were going to? :
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Old 18-08-2006, 01:43 AM   #11
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jim ur torque rating is at the wheels yhe???? Because if it isn't thats a bit confusing as dont stock te50's have 500nm?
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Old 18-08-2006, 01:47 AM   #12
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No mate not stock. do a search on jims posts, at 400 rw/hp no way.
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Old 18-08-2006, 06:35 AM   #13
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With the exhaust.......I found a twin 2 1/4 inch into a 3 inch system works awesome....

Has a nice note and is not really too loud, and has given me better fuel economy! true!

I had a 2.5 inch exhaust on my stock 5.0 and it sounded terrible.....no...make that worse then terible!
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Old 18-08-2006, 09:17 AM   #14
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Good street cams would be

Crane powermax 2030 (or 2031 with 1.7:1 rollers)
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BarryV put a 2030 into his DC LTD with Edelbrock manafold, 65mm TB, ProM MAF and home ported E7TE's. The cam made the biggest diffrence our of all the mods by far. Very torquie.
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Old 19-08-2006, 11:25 AM   #15
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Great Guys...thanks for the feedback.im keeping this thread for future reference.Looks like Ive got a bit of overtime to do LMAO in the not too distant future.
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also have a read through the windsor section of the site......
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Old 19-08-2006, 01:38 PM   #17
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Have a look though my project thread as well. I not to long back did a TFS1 cam install etc etc
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Old 20-08-2006, 12:17 AM   #18
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cool...will do ,,thanks
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