Motor Mag 2006 BFYB Winner Is....

CSV_LS1 · 04-10-2006, 07:25 PM

Got my issue in the mail today and not a bad issue.

Sorry guys but the VE SS Manual won. The performance figures are bloody impressive for the money especially compared to the auto typhoon.

Performance figures are:
Manual SS
0-100: 5.2
400m: 13.4@174.9
Oran Park Track Time: 36.8

Compared to the Auto Typhoon.

0-100:5.4
400m: 13.5@175.1
Oran Park Time: 36.5

XR6T Auto
0-100:6.0
400m: 14.2@169.1
Oran Park Time: 37.4

Audi RS4
0-100:4.93
400m: 13.0@178.1
Oran Park Time: 36.40

And a real performer is the Mazda3 MPS. Bloody impressive.

0-100:6.2
400m: 14.3@166.8
Oran Park Track Time: 37.4

austyphoon · 04-10-2006, 07:35 PM

impressive figures for the phoon and manual SS, will be interesting to see what the R8/GTS can do. Disappointed in the RS4, the wrap it got in MOTOR a couple of months ago made it sound like a supercar beater, but to only be .10 seconds faster then the typhoon I am very surprised.

can't wait to get my copy.

Jock260 · 04-10-2006, 07:42 PM

anything on the xr8?

Jock260 · 04-10-2006, 07:43 PM

and what does BFYB stand for,

anakha · 04-10-2006, 07:45 PM

That would be Bang For Your Bucks.

FPV8U · 04-10-2006, 07:46 PM

Bang For Your Bucks

Well done to GMH no suprise the VE is the flaver of the month, impressive 1/4 times for the SS will be interisted to see if owners can match it, we know the F6 is good for a High 12 stock, but atleast 13.5 is better than 13.9 they usually get.

LUXO_8 · 04-10-2006, 07:49 PM

the real suprise for me there is the mazda 6 MPS....what a rocket....

they're not too badly priced too AFAIK

xr6 ausome · 04-10-2006, 07:55 PM

Yah the bang is when the **** house holdens engine blows the **** up after pulling out of the dealers lol

XA-Coupe · 04-10-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xr6 ausome

Yah the bang is when the **** house holdens engine blows the **** up after pulling out of the dealers lol

Now there is quality input people, please all take note.

Best orion have some surprises when it comes out if those figures are for real.

[Tonko] · 04-10-2006, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xr6 ausome

Yah the bang is when the **** house holdens engine blows the **** up after pulling out of the dealers lol

yeah thats intelligent...i guess your one of those immature people that hate a holden "Just because"

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FPV8U · 04-10-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

Now there is quality input people, please all take note.

Note Taken

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xr6 ausome · 04-10-2006, 08:16 PM

Lighten up boyz. You are free to think what you like, just to let you know I have owned and still do have a holden in the family so just take a pill ok mate.

Oh and smile

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XA-Coupe · 04-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xr6 ausome

Lighten up boyz. You are free to think what you like, just to let you know I have owned and still do have a holden in the family so just take a pill ok mate.

Oh and smile

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I am light enough thanks without pharmaceutical assistance.
I'm also at a loss as to where the 'z' in 'boyz' comes from ...
Damn, I am not being so friendly any more :ticking:

Vdouw · 04-10-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

I am light enough thanks without pharmaceutical assistance.
I'm also at a loss as to where the 'z' in 'boyz' comes from ...
Damn, I am not being so friendly any more :ticking:

Guys XA-Coupe needs a hug ... 1 ... 2 ... 3... BIG HUG

: lol only teasing mate. BUT this 6l V8 really should be smashing the boss 290 ... i think its time ford either increases the rwkw in the V8's or brings out an 6l V8 to match ... but how sexy is a 6l V8 and its from like a cobra or corvette ... i don't pay attention to yank tanks. especially GM :gren:

McobraR · 04-10-2006, 08:56 PM

Ok Ford really needs to up the power of their V8's. man thats oen fast SS. Wonder how fast the HSV's will go.

05MkIIFutura · 04-10-2006, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jock260

anything on the xr8?

it still hadnt finished its lap before the article was due to be printed.

rushing on acid · 04-10-2006, 09:12 PM

if ford were smart they would get those ford racing 5.0 cammer motors happening in their xr8 and the mustang race versions in the fpv's or even the ford gt 5.4 supercharged bastard in the gtp. the ford gt motor is virtually identical to our motors except for a dry sump setup (easily fixed) and an alloy block.

Kenaz · 04-10-2006, 09:13 PM

Very impressive times from the SS and MPS. I might have to buy this issue.

rushing on acid · 04-10-2006, 09:18 PM

i should have added these links.

ford gt engine
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8037

ford 5.0 cammer race motor
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8022

ford 5.0 cammer mustang grand am cup version
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8408

ford 5.0 standard motor
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=6787

WASP · 04-10-2006, 09:20 PM

For a mid $45k car the VE SS is a great buy for V8 fans. Well done to Holden.

As for the Mazda, also very impressive but bang for buck I would still go the XR5T. Looks better, sounds better, much cheaper and only a tad slower from all reports. The one I drove the other day still has me very impressed.

McobraR · 04-10-2006, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushing on acid

if ford were smart they would get those ford racing 5.0 cammer motors happening in their xr8 and the mustang race versions in the fpv's or even the ford gt 5.4 supercharged bastard in the gtp. the ford gt motor is virtually identical to our motors except for a dry sump setup (easily fixed) and an alloy block.

Only problem with the cammer, is that its a race engine, it wont comply with the emission regulations etc. The Ford GT engine would be good, but that was a limited run. I say ford AUS should keep things naturally aspirated and try and get their hands on the hurricane engine ASAP to keep the ford followers happy... thats if Ford US ever decides to make it. As for the current engines, i say try and fix the low-down torque problem that most people here talk about and if possible try and get more power (if DJR could get 320kw, why cant FPV?).

rodderz · 04-10-2006, 09:25 PM

13.5 for the typhoon, I reckon Mauz may have seen a stocky 1/2 a second quicker than that!

rushing on acid · 04-10-2006, 09:26 PM

there is always a way around emissions on race motors with all this efi stuff that is flying around, look at the ls1 motors a quick remapp gets you 300+kw (flywheel) and it doesnt meet emissions after that

McobraR · 04-10-2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodderz

13.5 for the typhoon, I reckon Mauz may have seen a stocky 1/2 a second quicker than that!

Depends on the driver, as well as the track conditions, temperature etc. But since they were both tested on the same day, its clear to say the VE SS is faster

McobraR · 04-10-2006, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushing on acid

there is always a way around emissions on race motors with all this efi stuff that is flying around, look at the ls1 motors a quick remapp gets you 300+kw (flywheel) and it doesnt meet emissions after that

Dont know what ur saying, but theres no point in Ford putting an engine into a car that doesnt meet the emissions... its illegal. Meaning Ford wouldnt be allowed to sell it. Of course people can do up their car and get as much power as they want, but then it'll be up to the owners to not get caught

mik · 04-10-2006, 09:34 PM

the figures are quick, but a tenth over the qaurter is not huge and the typhoon was quicker around the track, wouldnt call a huge margin and perhaps against a manual henry it have been different.

Abacus · 04-10-2006, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mik

the figures are quick, but a tenth over the qaurter is not huge and the typhoon was quicker around the track, wouldnt call a huge margin and perhaps against a manual henry it have been different.

Its BFYB remember. Even if the Typhoon matched the SS the SS would still win on value.

Hate to say it, but I can't see a fix from Ford coming soon. The BOSS is too restricted by its long stroke architecture to allow for much OEM improvement, and even if Ford was to go all out and do something amazing Holden just have to stick in the 7.0L they have sitting on ice and the staus quo is maintained.

Don't know about the Hurricane engine. If Ford hasn't even decided to put it into production yet it clearly won't make it into Orion for the March 2008 release.

Abacus · 04-10-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushing on acid

i should have added these links.

ford gt engine
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8037

ford 5.0 cammer race motor
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8022

ford 5.0 cammer mustang grand am cup version
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=8408

ford 5.0 standard motor
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=6787

USD36,500 for the GT engine...OUCH!! Ain't gonna win BFYB that way...

Disco1986 · 04-10-2006, 10:23 PM

it seems holden are the king of V8's, i mean thier SS is eating our FPV's, so i can only imagin wot the HSV's would do! I love ford and always will, but all the HSV products always seem that much more special impressive then FPV's cars! Ford need to do somthing more radical with the entire design!

SpoolMan · 04-10-2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSV_LS1

Sorry guys but the VE SS Manual won. The performance figures are bloody impressive for the money especially compared to the auto typhoon.

Performance figures are:
Manual SS
0-100: 5.2
400m: 13.4@174.9
Oran Park Track Time: 36.8

Compared to the Auto Typhoon.

0-100:5.4
400m: 13.5@175.1
Oran Park Time: 36.5

If you keep your car standard its a even result in performance, money wise the Chev spanks it....
If you like to mod your car for an easy 350rwkw and run a low 11 the 6T's are still a good buy..