Gtp ???

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 08:21 PM

Does anyone else think that this 'GTP' is just a rice XR8 ??

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2003-Ford-FPV...QQcmdZViewItem

Looks like false advertising to me but make your own mind up - love to hear from someone who lives close to this dealer and can check it out..

Grechie · 02-05-2007, 08:23 PM

all i know is that spoiler isnt the gt spoiler

scotty32 · 02-05-2007, 08:33 PM

This car is up the road from me,I`ll check it out next time I go past and let you know...
Cheers Scotty

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grechie

all i know is that spoiler isnt the gt spoiler

I thought that, but I have seen so many posts in here of people wanting to remove XR spoilers etc that anything is possible.

However when I look ed at the side shot it looks like someone has put the GT-P door badges on, but left the XR8 Skirt badges on ??

And those skirts are defiantely not GT...

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty32

This car is up the road from me,I`ll check it out next time I go past and let you know...
Cheers Scotty

Cheers .. love to see some close ups and inside shots if you are keen to take out the camera.

It would be sad to see a licensed dealer selling an XR8 as a GTP ... even if they where unaware, kindof worse really...

v8falconsrule · 02-05-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloXR6

And those skirts are defiantely not GT...

Actually from what i can see it looks like its genuine. its an 03 model gt-p hence the 7 spoke rims, and the skirts look like gt items to me.

going by the mounting location of the rear spoiler it looks like it would mount in the same position as the gt one... the legs and shape of the end plates tell me it's not an xr one! maybe the previos owner just didn't want a massive rear spoiler- plenty of people are of the same taste?

at this point i'd say it's probably genuine.

FPV8U · 02-05-2007, 08:49 PM

Genuine with a Ghey rear spoiler.

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Genuine with a Ghey rear spoiler.

Kindof agreed, but still cant work out what is on the skirts in the side shot - cant remember old GTP's having anything there.

And no hump decals ?

really though if the owner wanted to be discrete then wTF buy a GTP ? XR6 Turbo, debadge the Turbo and go see APS .... surely .... or buy a Specced XR8 and go from there....

Maybe I am horse-minded but this is just so wrong.

Scott · 02-05-2007, 09:06 PM

That's real - no question. The only change is the spoiler as prev mentioned.

FPV8U · 02-05-2007, 09:08 PM

Side Skirts have Chrome/silver little flutes in them under the rear door because it's a GT-P, GT's just have them painted the same as the car.

No Decals because bonnet decals were a thing of FPV MKII....

S3SR · 02-05-2007, 09:09 PM

and the GT badge from the main grill beside the ford badge is missing

superpursuit83 · 02-05-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FALCONSR

and the GT badge from the main grill beside the ford badge is missing

They only came with BF

FASTXR · 02-05-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloXR6

Kindof agreed, but still cant work out what is on the skirts in the side shot - cant remember old GTP's having anything there

Actually they did have a small sort of "scoop" just in front of the rear wheel. You can see it an example in the attached pic (which is a BF Force 6 but you get the idea!).

EDIT - Damn FPV8U beat me to it!

Gabbs · 02-05-2007, 09:21 PM

It looks legit.
As far is I know gt strips are optional plus it has gtp rims and brakes and can just see the seats as well.

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gabbs19

It looks legit.
As far is I know gt strips are optional plus it has gtp rims and brakes and can just see the seats as well.

Good spotting - didnt notice the seats, and on second looks, the rear shot shows the silver surround of the ICC and a bigg enough screen for Premium sound...

I will stand corrected here...... however $49k is probably dreaming fgor something that looks like an XR8

HLC · 02-05-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloXR6

for something that looks like an XR8

lol how?

big body kit, big rims, big brakes. but a lame/little rear spoiler. not to mention the big GTP badges.

the GTP's have heaps over the XR8's. in terms of luzury. performance is no diff.

gtfpv · 02-05-2007, 09:48 PM

its a GTP.

VeloXR6 · 02-05-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

lol how?

big body kit, big rims, big brakes. but a lame/little rear spoiler. not to mention the big GTP badges.

the GTP's have heaps over the XR8's. in terms of luzury. performance is no diff.

Well most GTP's look like they are different ... this is very plain and remember the price tag on the window....

39K maybe .....
35k better

Its 3 years old after all.

Scott · 02-05-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

lol how?

big body kit, big rims, big brakes. but a lame/little rear spoiler. not to mention the big GTP badges.

the GTP's have heaps over the XR8's. in terms of luzury. performance is no diff.

huh? explain "performance is no diff".

Smoke Pursuit · 02-05-2007, 10:12 PM

It was for sale on carsales for yonks, owner changed the spoiler coz the original was too big, which i can understand.

Scott · 02-05-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

It was for sale on carsales for yonks, owner changed the spoiler coz the original was too big, which i can understand.

Atleast the little one won't block out half of the rear view mirror

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**Full Noise** · 03-05-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

It was for sale on carsales for yonks, owner changed the spoiler coz the original was too big, which i can understand.

You’ve got that right!!! I’d say around 18 months. He wanted something like $57,000 when it was first advertised.

I’m buggerd if I know why he didn’t keep the original spoiler and just bolt it back on when he wanted to sell it.

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Originally Posted by GTP006

Atleast the little one won't block out half of the rear view mirror

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Bah, that’s the beauty these things. :hihi:

HLC · 03-05-2007, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP006

huh? explain "performance is no diff".

that was a **** up on my behalf

: no idea why i even wrote that

: 260-290, yeah there is a difference in performance

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flappist · 03-05-2007, 09:22 AM

That looks like a genuine BA 1 GT-P in HgAg. The scoop inserts were also HgAg which is why they are hard to see. The giant tail has been replaced with a more "unboyracer" one which I have seen before (as well as having it removed completely).

It looks like my old GT-P other than colour and the tail. The majority of GT-Ps of that time did not have stripes as the original stripes were a bit ordinary and it was all a bit "new". I specifically did not order stripes because the only example available was the phantom GT with orange stripes "P" build and it was UGLY.
Decals, badges and bigger wheels were all on later models.

If it is a fake then the owner has spent a fortune as it has gen wheels, brembos, all the genuine badging and if it was owned by a wannabe faker then why does it not have the GT-P tail, one of the easy fake parts to get?
Fakes are usually over done with wrong stripes, wheels, badges etc and standard brakes painted red.

FORD3V · 03-05-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HLC

lol how?

big body kit, big rims, big brakes. but a lame/little rear spoiler. not to mention the big GTP badges.

the GTP's have heaps over the XR8's. in terms of luzury. performance is no diff.

There isnt a huge amount of differance between a fully optioned XR8 and a GTP in my opinion, besides the brakes and 30 kw's, which would be cheaper to do after market anyway, 30 grand extra is alot of money for a GT badge,having said that if money wasnt an issue i would probly go the GT, but for most people money is an issue, and the XR8's are better value for money.

daz82 · 03-05-2007, 02:19 PM

Checked the rego on the system and it is a genuine GT-P

flappist · 03-05-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 12sec 3V XT

There isnt a huge amount of differance between a fully optioned XR8 and a GTP in my opinion, besides the brakes and 30 kw's, which would be cheaper to do after market anyway, 30 grand extra is alot of money for a GT badge,having said that if money wasnt an issue i would probly go the GT, but for most people money is an issue, and the XR8's are better value for money.

Well apart from the interior, seats, climate control, suspension, engine, wheels, brembo brakes, electronic brake distribution system, bodykit AND the GT-P badge there really is not a lot of difference between a XR8 and a GT-P.

But there is, however, more difference than there is between a XT and a XR8 so the XT must be better value for money.

After all the only reason you would buy a BA falcon is to mod it so you are able to run a 400m almost as fast as a VL commodore isn't it? Doesn't matter what it looks like, how comfortable it is or how safe really does it?

FORD3V · 03-05-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Well apart from the interior, seats, climate control, suspension, engine, wheels, brembo brakes, electronic brake distribution system, bodykit AND the GT-P badge there really is not a lot of difference between a XR8 and a GT-P.

But there is, however, more difference than there is between a XT and a XR8 so the XT must be better value for money.

After all the only reason you would buy a BA falcon is to mod it so you are able to run a 400m almost as fast as a VL commodore isn't it? Doesn't matter what it looks like, how comfortable it is or how safe really does it?

DIDNT YOU READ WHAT I SAID? I would buy a GTP over an XR8 if money wasnt an issue, hard to justify an extra 30 grand on a few gimmicks like climate control,body kit and 19" wheels. You could get the extra 30 kw's with a better exhaust and CAI, as for the suspension, youd turf that crap for bilsteins and buy some second hand brembo's for 3 grand.

fordAU · 03-05-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 12sec 3V XT

DIDNT YOU READ WHAT I SAID? I would buy a GTP over an XR8 if money wasnt an issue, hard to justify an extra 30 grand on a few gimmicks like climate control,body kit and 19" wheels. You could get the extra 30 kw's with a better exhaust and CAI, as for the suspension, youd turf that crap for bilsteins and buy some second hand brembo's for 3 grand.

If you dont mind me saying this but there is little point in your post.

The targeted market for GT/GT-P's are not boy racers into the mods scene, people who spend 60 grand plus for a GT are in the main well aware of what they are purchasing, a superb vehicle from Ford.

At the end of the day a GT will always be admired, a modded up XT won't, I say that not to inflame debate but to perhaps explain that you can't always justify the extra expense by arguing that an individual can do it cheaper/better/faster etc, I would guess that most GT owners could not give a toss about that sort of thing.

Cheers.

FORD3V · 03-05-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fordAU

If you dont mind me saying this but there is little point in your post.

The targeted market for GT/GT-P's are not boy racers into the mods scene, people who spend 60 grand plus for a GT are in the main well aware of what they are purchasing, a superb vehicle from Ford.

At the end of the day a GT will always be admired, a modded up XT won't, I say that not to inflame debate but to perhaps explain that you can't always justify the extra expense by arguing that an individual can do it cheaper/better/faster etc, I would guess that most GT owners could not give a toss about that sort of thing.

Cheers.

If you dont mind me saying.

I think youl find a fair majority of GT owners mod there cars, everyone i no who owns one has, and the only AU's that will ever be admired are the T-series, does that meen no one should mod them?